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  • JCBitB
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 34

    Gen3 Glock 34 extractor and other issues

    Hey folks, I'm almost to 400 rounds on my new Glock 34 and I'm still catching over half the cases to the face and chest. Not ideal considering I'm trying to get rid of my flinch

    is it time to contact Glock and ask them? or do I need to give it some more rounds would you say?
  • #2
    c3 rolling
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 726

    I had the same problem with one of my G34's. It never went away with 5k + rounds even after the extractor was replaced. People are gonna chime in that your limp wristing but it's not always the case. The only way to stop it is to run hotter ammo or just roll the dice and keep shooting it with a hockey mask.

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    • #3
      GLOCK34
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 96

      Were you shooting reload or factory ammo? I had that problem when I was shooting reload or lighter load such as PMC. But when I shoot hotter load such as S&B, Magtech and Lawman, problems go away.

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      • #4
        JCBitB
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 34

        Definitely wasn't limp wristing. I had elbow locked with a firm push pull grip, and grip was my main focus of the outing. I'd think a limpwrist might cause FTE or stovepiping but can't imagine how it would influence direction of extraction

        I shot a bit of everything. Shot some Bishops reloads, Remington factory cheap brass case in white and green box, some of the wally world UMC bulk 9mm, and 100 rounds of some range ammo I'd never seen before wanna say the brand was Independence or something... The reloads occasionally had FTE or didn't feed right without a good smack to the back of the slide, but the case to the face issues happened with ALL ammo. Between 6-7 rounds out of every clip hit me. Not hard, but I'm a new shooter trying to get rid of flinch, and this certainly isn't helping
        Last edited by JCBitB; 02-13-2012, 2:46 PM.

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        • #5
          himurax13
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 3895

          The reasons for rounds to the face are usually the following:

          Ammo is too weak for the Recoil Spring.
          Recoil Spring is too strong for the ammo.
          The ejector is usually flat (perpendicular to the barrel) and needs to be angled to have the brass eject to the right where it belongs.

          I find this an issue with all types of auto pistols.
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          • #6
            DDRH
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2008
            • 2756

            Glock 19's are having this same issue. Here's a Thread on it recently...



            it's also known around the web, M4 forum, ar15.com, glocktalk. mostly an issue with the G19's.

            we ammo is usually causing this, however, using S&B ammo, i had a few fly towards me...but most of them were strong/hot enough to fly my head.

            quick fix would be to wear a cap while you're shooting.

            I'm thinking about giving glock a call...although, i haven't had a jam...just brass dribbling out the port...

            supposedly they've updated the ejector and extractor. Some people have used LoneWolf extractors, some work, some don't...some have to do a combo of both ejector and extractor.

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            • #7
              JCBitB
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 34

              I've seen a lot of people crying about this same issue, but they were all talking about Gen.4 Glocks. Seemed like a few people popped into every thread to say "that's why I love my Gen 3"

              Sucks for the guy with the Gen 3

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              • #8
                DDRH
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2008
                • 2756

                Originally posted by JCBitB
                I've seen a lot of people crying about this same issue, but they were all talking about Gen.4 Glocks. Seemed like a few people popped into every thread to say "that's why I love my Gen 3"

                Sucks for the guy with the Gen 3
                supposedly this is happening with the later Gen3 Glocks...
                something about Glock using cast extractors and it's not up to spec...
                As for ejectors, should be ejector #336, however, some people are getting new ones...forgot what the serial # for new one is, should be in the thread i link above post.

                i was considering using the G19 as HD gun, however, with ammo dribbling out the port...think i'll keep as a range gun. Besides, i shoot my P30 better

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                • #9
                  c3 rolling
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 726

                  My Glock 34 with the same issue is a recent production 3rd gen. My new 3rd gen Glock 35 also does this once in a while with weak reloads.

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                  • #10
                    cindynles
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2806

                    Originally posted by c3 rolling
                    I had the same problem with one of my G34's. It never went away with 5k + rounds even after the extractor was replaced. People are gonna chime in that your limp wristing but it's not always the case. The only way to stop it is to run hotter ammo or just roll the dice and keep shooting it with a hockey mask.
                    Did you replace the extractor with a current production Glock (MIM) extractor or one of the older style ones? The Lone Wolf extractor is supposed to fix the issue on Gen3 Glock 9mm. Its worth a try for $15.

                    Lone Wolf Arms is the largest manufacturer of aftermarket parts for Glocks. We also have M&P Shield, Beretta/Taurus, and Browning Hi-Power parts.
                    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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                    • #11
                      c3 rolling
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 726

                      Originally posted by cindynles
                      Did you replace the extractor with a current production Glock (MIM) extractor or one of the older style ones? The Lone Wolf extractor is supposed to fix the issue on Gen3 Glock 9mm. Its worth a try for $15.

                      http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.a...TERM=extractor
                      I've tried swapping with the older style extractor from my old Glock and it did nothing. Tried out the Lone wolf extractor with the same results. Ive also tried swapping recoil springs that had over 30,000 rounds on it and nothing. I just gave up, cant figure it out. Hard to complain when the pistol still hasn't malfunctioned though lol. .

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                      • #12
                        DDRH
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 2756

                        Originally posted by c3 rolling
                        I've tried swapping with the older style extractor from my old Glock and it did nothing. Tried out the Lone wolf extractor with the same results. Ive also tried swapping recoil springs that had over 30,000 rounds on it and nothing. I just gave up, cant figure it out. Hard to complain when the pistol still hasn't malfunctioned though lol. .
                        Have you tried replacing the ejector? may also be an issue. Discussions found through google search mainly talks about ejector and extractor.

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                        • #13
                          JCBitB
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 34

                          update: I have the ejector labeled 336 that everyone seems to be having problems with. I'll call up glock and see if I can make somethin happen.

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                          • #14
                            DDRH
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2756

                            Originally posted by JCBitB
                            update: I have the ejector labeled 336 that everyone seems to be having problems with. I'll call up glock and see if I can make somethin happen.
                            any updates on what glock reps said? 003, on another thread stated, the glock rep says that 336 ejector is the correct one, and shouldn't be changed out...seems like conflicting reports, compared to other google searched threads.

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                            • #15
                              S470FM
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 968

                              I have an early Gen 2 G19 that had that issue, but I sent it in to Glock for the upgrades and now it spits the casings to the right.

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