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  • goldengate
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 304

    Nightsight = failed for HD

    I put a set of Meprolight on my Walther PPQ for home defense and was very disappointed. For home defense, I don't see the advantage of having night sight. I did a trial run around 10pm with all lights off in the house and I cannot see anything but 3 green dots. I don't know if I am aiming at my door or the TV. For sure, I am not going to pull the trigger without identifying the target. I think I am going to mount a TLR flashlight. The only things I like about the nightsights over the factory sights are it is metal and I can find my gun in the dark. Anyone with night sights on their gun want to chime in on the advantages of it for home defense?



  • #2
    Montu
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1589

    what did you expect them to light the room?

    I like my night sights for use in low light..not complete darkness...in complete darkness I like being able to see my gun like you mentioned.


    I also mounted a tlr1s
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    • #3
      1nickatnite1
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      • Mar 2011
      • 458

      I don't think night sites are meant for complete darkness. Its more of an aid in ambient light situations. With that said, I have a tlr-1 on my hd gun with NO n/s a it works great. Some ppl just like having them.
      Last edited by 1nickatnite1; 01-27-2012, 11:38 AM. Reason: sentence cut off
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      • #4
        thetaxman
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 885

        Night sights won't help you identify who or what is making the noise at 3am. You must have a light on a HD weapon. If you shoot the drunk neighbor/daughters' boyfriend/friend from work because you couldn't see, then you will go to jail and lose your house in a law suit.
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        • #5
          zfields
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2010
          • 13658

          Duh?
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          • #6
            vintagearms
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2009
            • 6841

            Identify your target is #1. The object of night sights isnt to illuminate your target, just as an aid to see your sights.

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            • #7
              Casual_Shooter
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              • Sep 2006
              • 11733

              Would be interested in hearing what you were expecting.
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              • #8
                iron330
                Member
                • May 2011
                • 415

                I see no reason for night sights other than being able to find your gun in the dark. And that frankly isn't a good reason either. I think Angus Hobdel from CZ said more or less the same thing recently.

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                • #9
                  Decoligny
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 10615

                  I don't have the night sights, but I do know they are not designed for 100% total darkness. They do not allow you to see in the dark. They are designed for low light conditions where you can actually see your target, but would not be able to see your front and rear sights. Hard to shoot center mass if you have nothing to aim with.

                  Consider putting a couple of "night lights" around the house. This will allow enough illumination to differentiate between an intruder and your coat rack.

                  An intruder, upon entering a house that is totally dark, will usually use a flashlight in order to see what he is trying to steal. You rarely if ever get an intruder who is wearing night vision goggles, so you will have an illuminated area in which to see your target.
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                  • #10
                    Dynamic
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 819

                    Lol, night sights are not meant to light up the whole room, its good for low light situations or work great with a mounted light.

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                    • #11
                      shooterfpga
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2761

                      Originally posted by Casual_Shooter
                      Would be interested in hearing what you were expecting.
                      me too lol. this is the first time ive heard anyone think it was gonna illuminate what youre lookin at.
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                      • #12
                        zfields
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 13658

                        Originally posted by shooterfpga
                        me too lol. this is the first time ive heard anyone think it was gonna illuminate what youre lookin at.
                        Maybe if you put them on backwards
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                        • #13
                          goldengate
                          Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 304

                          Well, I was at my local gun store and an employee was like, 'every HD gun must have night sights' and I was seeing all these gun coming out with night sight install from factory. I though it might be worth it to have it on my hd gun. I want to see the real life situation when it might be useful. Seriously, even with low light situation, I don't see how helpful night sights are. I wake up around 6am for work and there was enough sun to light up the room. I took the PPQ out and the night sights are still very visible, but I would still prefer having a mounted flashlight.

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                          • #14
                            MongooseV8
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4426

                            I don't see how both not being able to identify your target AND not having any sight picture is a better option? Use ns for low light conditions. Like outside or your living room since there should be a small amount of light available to identify bad guys. In a cave or the blackness of deep space a tac light would be useful.

                            Then again try using painted sights in a dark room while using your tac light and let me know how that works for you hehe.

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                            • #15
                              SDM44
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 3896

                              Originally posted by Montu
                              what did you expect them to light the room?

                              LOL, but this is exactly what I was thinking.


                              Night sights have their purpose, and for me it's for low light situations (where I can still see the area when it's dark), but I wouldn't only use NS in this case.... use a flashlight or something to illuminate the area you intend to shoot at first.

                              Also, if it is pitch black like you were experiencing, then it's much easier to get a sense of where the gun/muzzle is pointed. Again, you need a light in this situation but at least you're not holding the gun improperly and having it pointed way low or high from where you think it is.


                              On the flip side, night sights are pretty much useless when you run a weapon-mounted light underneath the muzzle. In pretty much every case, that bright light is going to wash out the tritium glowing, so you're basically left with a silhouette of sight posts (if you go with 3-dot style sights) and you just need to align those up when shooting at that point. You won't be able to use your night sights unless you have the light far off to the side of the gun, or way back behind the gun.

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