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  • Shoobee
    Banned
    • Jan 2012
    • 532

    .44 mag vs .45 ACP

    So Xmas came late for me this year. I did not buy anything for Xmas this past year nor the year before.

    But just now I managed to find (or it found me) a beautiful perfect CZ 97B .45 ACP, and it feels like Xmas all over again for me now.

    I will drive up to Redding Calif on Saturday to effect (means carry-out) the transfer.

    In our Communist Peoples Republic of California you may not touch a gun until the 10 day waiting period is over with. As if 10 days is going to make any difference at all for anything. Also, and ordinary resident may only sell to a licensed gun dealership. Ergo my seller will FedEx the handgun to my regular dealership in Cupertino Calif (that's where Apple Computer & I-Phones is) and then I will pay him in Redding at FedEx for it.

    In the meantime, I have been musing over the comparison between the most powerful semi-auto pistol in the world (that I know of) versus the most powerful revolver in the world. Take a look at the photo below, to see what I mean.

    The bullet on the left is the famous .45 ACP, with 230 grains FMJ, a whopper that many people believe is too strong to be a good CQB combat/police raid calibre. There it is. Hailing from the Philippines wars for which it was designed to knock down and kill dope loaded sappers.

    Right next to it is the wildlife equivalent of it, the .44 magnum with 225 grains half-jacketed, which is what it takes to do the same thing to a bear, any bear, in North America.

    I marvel at the difference between us, between us humans and the bears.

    We are certainly a fragile lot, compared with them. You can tell, from these bullets, side by side.
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    billped
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2504

    Bigger body = more energy needed. The extra layer of fat on bears helps, though that probably protects many humans as well.

    "Honey, it's not a beer belly, it's nature's Kevlar."


    Bill
    Last edited by billped; 01-26-2012, 8:25 PM.
    Bill

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    • #3
      Fjold
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 22877

      The 45 ACP is not the "most powerful semi-auto pistol in the world" and the 44 mag is not the "most powerful revolver in the world". And, you don't know how to use the macro function on your camera.
      Frank

      One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




      Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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      • #4
        kurac
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 2917

        Originally posted by Fjold
        The 45 ACP is not the "most powerful semi-auto pistol in the world" and the 44 mag is not the "most powerful revolver in the world". And, you don't know how to use the macro function on your camera.
        they both were at one time
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        • #5
          JMacRevo
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 48

          Originally posted by Fjold
          The 45 ACP is not the "most powerful semi-auto pistol in the world" and the 44 mag is not the "most powerful revolver in the world". And, you don't know how to use the macro function on your camera.
          at least he said, "that I know of"

          Last edited by JMacRevo; 01-26-2012, 9:09 PM. Reason: wrong quote
          -Lifetime NRA Member

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          • #6
            appagohm
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1123

            50ae for semi auto, 500 smith and wesson for revolver. "that i know of" just in case.
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            to reduce drunk driving
            by making it tougher for
            sober people to own cars"

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            • #7
              gono
              Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 381

              44mag is a whole different beast compared to 45acp. The velocity is nearly double which being a quadratic relation is near four times the energy

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              • #8
                mes227
                Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 136

                Originally posted by kurac
                they both were at one time
                Almost a generation ago!

                As to the .500S&W, isn't the 45-70 more powerful?

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                • #9
                  Bhobbs
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11849

                  I think .460 Rowland and .44 Magnum would be a better comparison.

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                  • #10
                    Dark Mod
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 4284

                    what about .44 automag? and for revolver theres always S&W 460/500

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                    • #11
                      m98
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4088

                      9mm loaded with cop killa boolits FTW....

                      45 vs 10mm vs 450rowland vs 44mag vs 50bmg
                      "Screw U guys, I'm going home"...:the great Eric Cartman

                      10mm. Because .45ACP just doesn't cut it anymore. <Trailerparktrash>

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                      • #12
                        jcaoloveshine
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2654

                        44mag = great hunting cartridge

                        45acp= great combat cartridge

                        for all 2-legged needs, apply dose of 45acp liberally. for all 4-legged needs, apply 44mag liberally. reload, repeat.
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                        • #13
                          HPGunner
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1359

                          Don't forget the .454 Casull. It's a beast of a round compared to the 44 mag and probably not too far off from the .500 S&W.

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                          • #14
                            Shoobee
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 532

                            Originally posted by HPGunner
                            Don't forget the .454 Casull. It's a beast of a round compared to the 44 mag and probably not too far off from the .500 S&W.
                            My personal view, at least for myself, that these 2 particular handguns (.454 and .500) are too big to be practical, or to have any usefulness.

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                            • #15
                              Shoobee
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 532

                              Originally posted by jcaoloveshine
                              44mag = great hunting cartridge

                              45acp= great combat cartridge

                              for all 2-legged needs, apply dose of 45acp liberally. for all 4-legged needs, apply 44mag liberally. reload, repeat.
                              I sure hope I don't have to reload!

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