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  • Moto4Fun
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 965

    1911 like controls in a 9mm double stack or possibly RIA Compact

    I have been looking for a new gun and have determined I don't even know what I want. What I do like is the idea of a SAO with 1911 style safety (Ruger and Baretta can keep their goofy safety), but in a full capacity 9mm. I have had a CZ SP-01, and while it is the right idea, the safety was not too good, and the slide is so low profile, I just don't like it. I recently experienced a USP9 that meets my criteria.

    So I am looking for other models that are (or have the ability to be operated as) Single Action 9mm. I am primarily looking for a mid-size compact (4") so Sig p238 and RIA 9mm 1911 don't really qualify.

    Thanks for your ideas!

    edit~ There is a Compact sized RIA Tactical for sale at my LGS that caught my attention. Any thoughts about that?
    Last edited by Moto4Fun; 01-19-2012, 4:29 PM.
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    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    Hi power?
    CZ 75 SAO?




    Last edited by zfields; 01-19-2012, 11:08 AM.
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    • #3
      G60
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3989

      M&P 9 thumb safety model.
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      • #4
        Synergy
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2008
        • 14303

        USP or USP compact in 9, the USP has the same grip angle and controls of the 1911. I carry my USPc 45 in Condition One - Cocked and Locked!

        p.s. I missed that you said the USP

        I love the HK compact line, the full size USP/HK series are just ginormous. Plus I keep my left index finger on the trigger guard. The FS trigger guard is way too big.
        Last edited by Synergy; 01-19-2012, 11:20 AM.
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        • #5
          Lead Waster
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 16650

          I have the CZ-75 SA, the controls are very much like the 1911, but I find it way easier to thumb off the safety on the 1911. It feels like the CZ's safety is a bit far forward (for my thumbs anysay) to feel the exact same.

          However, you said you didn't like the CZ.
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          • #6
            whipkiller
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 3461

            Originally posted by Lead Waster
            I have the CZ-75 SA, the controls are very much like the 1911, but I find it way easier to thumb off the safety on the 1911. It feels like the CZ's safety is a bit far forward (for my thumbs anysay) to feel the exact same.

            However, you said you didn't like the CZ.
            BLASPHEMY!!
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            • #7
              Lewis
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 125

              Hmmm.......this is a tough one. It's tough to meet all the criteria. If you can eliminate one, or two, of the requirements you create a bunch of options.

              The USP platform is probably your best bet at this point.

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              • #8
                PRCABR4Christ
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 954

                get a Browning Hi-Power an be done with any polymer/plastic foolishness
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                • #9
                  RRichie09
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2592

                  What about another 1911?

                  Para Ord 18-9 Limited

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                  • #10
                    Mr310
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5692

                    Originally posted by RRichie09
                    What about another 1911?

                    Para Ord 18-9 Limited
                    +1 on a Para.

                    That or a BHP.
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                    • #11
                      Moto4Fun
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 965

                      The EMP and Para pistols seem to be what I really like.

                      I didn't know the M&P 9 was available with a thumb safety ( I did know that the .45 is available)

                      I handled a High Power at the shop today. Pretty cool. It seems like something my Dad would buy, he likes old stuff.

                      The CZ I had met the qualification (which is why I liked it) but I couldn't get over the slide being so low profile. I am sure trigger work could have helped the trigger, and over time the safety might have loosened up, but the tiny serrations was the third strike so I had to sell it.

                      Maybe I just need to get a .45 and just plan to spend more money on ammo.

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                      • #12
                        someR1
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2932

                        Originally posted by Moto4Fun
                        The EMP and Para pistols seem to be what I really like.

                        I didn't know the M&P 9 was available with a thumb safety ( I did know that the .45 is available)

                        I handled a High Power at the shop today. Pretty cool. It seems like something my Dad would buy, he likes old stuff.

                        The CZ I had met the qualification (which is why I liked it) but I couldn't get over the slide being so low profile. I am sure trigger work could have helped the trigger, and over time the safety might have loosened up, but the tiny serrations was the third strike so I had to sell it.

                        Maybe I just need to get a .45 and just plan to spend more money on ammo.
                        if u dont have a 45... u NEED one !
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                        • #13
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14174

                          Originally posted by Moto4Fun
                          I handled a High Power at the shop today. Pretty cool. It seems like something my Dad would buy, he likes old stuff.
                          Your Dad is a wise man.

                          The HP is still arguably the best 9mm combat pistol available.

                          You can get a Detective kit for it with a Commander length slide and barrel. Trigger work is easy if you feel the need.

                          It fits most hands perfectly.

                          What's not to like??

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                          • #14
                            zfields
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 13658

                            Originally posted by Moto4Fun

                            The CZ I had met the qualification (which is why I liked it) but I couldn't get over the slide being so low profile. I am sure trigger work could have helped the trigger, and over time the safety might have loosened up, but the tiny serrations was the third strike so I had to sell it.
                            The SP01 and 75 SAO are really different feeling. The safety on the SAO is much easier to disengage, and the trigger is much better.


                            But if the slide is to small, not much you can do about that.
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                            • #15
                              Moto4Fun
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 965

                              Being the obsessive buyer that I am, I went back in there to look at all "MY" guns. I hadn't seen it before, but over in the consignment section there was 3.5" RIA Tactical. WHOA that looked cool, so I checked it out. It belongs to one of the employees who went on to tell me about all of the work he had done to it. It certainly seemed higher quality that the other RIAs that I have handled in the past. Now, he had my attention. It includes 5 mags and a couple sets of grips. He is asking $550 for it which seems high considering RIA GIs are really inexpensive, but maybe its worth it considering the work he had done to it, and the general rarity of the compact size. What do you guys think? SHould I push the 9mm to the back burner again and pick up the RIA compact tactical?

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