Glock +2 Baseplate

[LOW2000]

I generally try not to change things last minute before competitions, races, classes, whatever, but I have some Glock factory +2 baseplates for my G19 and G17 mags. What I don't have, is the insert that goes in those baseplates to capture the spring.

I am taking the Costa Ludus class on Monday however, and while practicing reloads, I often catch the meat of my palm in between the grip and the standard baseplate on my magazines, so I decided to finally get around to putting some + baseplates on some of my mags because I know reloads will be a huge part of the course.

Will I be OK functionally without the insert?

My 2 concerns are feeding reliability (don't think it should be an issue, the inserts don't really add any height to the spring) and retaining the baseplate, since the insert slots down onto the tabs in the baseplate.

Worst case scenario, I can cannibalize a couple 33rd mags I have that I know have the inserts since, unless there is a shop local in SoCal that carries glock mag parts, i'm SOL to have these on for the class. I may just run them with the baseplates and no inserts and if they run fine, then no harm no foul, if I see failures, I have plenty of mags that are unmodified that I can use for the remainder of the class.

[Corbin Dallas]

I don't think you can buy the inserts outside of the whole plus basepads. I've never personally tried what you're attempting to do but I don't see why it would not work.

[locosway]

I generally try not to change things last minute before competitions, races, classes, whatever, but I have some Glock factory +2 baseplates for my G19 and G17 mags. What I don't have, is the insert that goes in those baseplates to capture the spring.

I am taking the Costa Ludus class on Monday however, and while practicing reloads, I often catch the meat of my palm in between the grip and the standard baseplate on my magazines, so I decided to finally get around to putting some + baseplates on some of my mags because I know reloads will be a huge part of the course.

Will I be OK functionally without the insert?

My 2 concerns are feeding reliability (don't think it should be an issue, the inserts don't really add any height to the spring) and retaining the baseplate, since the insert slots down onto the tabs in the baseplate.

Worst case scenario, I can cannibalize a couple 33rd mags I have that I know have the inserts since, unless there is a shop local in SoCal that carries glock mag parts, i'm SOL to have these on for the class. I may just run them with the baseplates and no inserts and if they run fine, then no harm no foul, if I see failures, I have plenty of mags that are unmodified that I can use for the remainder of the class.

The insert allows you to depress the spring to take the mags apart. While it may work without them, you'll probably be better off not putting the base pads on before the class.

FWIW I run a +2 on all of my Glocks and a base pad on my 1911 mags. It's much nicer seating the mag with the extra length.

How many inserts do you need?

[LOW2000]

I have 5 unused + floorplates that I need inserts for, I can order the inserts separately from Midway, but didn't realize that the bags with the basepads in them didn't have the inserts as well.

I can get the baseplates on and off with a little finessing, i'm just more concerned at this point with the mag dumping all the rounds on the ground, or possibly some issue with reliability, even though the insert adds negligible height to the spring.

[Sturnovik]

The insert allows you to depress the spring to take the mags apart. While it may work without them, you'll probably be better off not putting the base pads on before the class.

FWIW I run a +2 on all of my Glocks and a base pad on my 1911 mags. It's much nicer seating the mag with the extra length.

How many inserts do you need?

Hell I have the hardest time just getting the baseplates off, wish they were easier. Even after watching videos on youtube and talking to a glock armorer mine wont budge. Its a bummer two because I can hear dirt rattling around in one of them :/.

[LOW2000]

Sturn, are they regular, or 10 rd mags?

If they are regular, the way I describe it is to break a stick in half.

Hold the glock tool in one hand, and pinch the sides of the mag with the other hand, then act like it is a stick you are trying to snap, and it should pop loose.

If you have 10rd mags, well, those suck to take apart since you can't get the tool in as far to get the leverage you need to pop em apart.

[Sturnovik]

Sturn, are they regular, or 10 rd mags?

If they are regular, the way I describe it is to break a stick in half.

Hold the glock tool in one hand, and pinch the sides of the mag with the other hand, then act like it is a stick you are trying to snap, and it should pop loose.

If you have 10rd mags, well, those suck to take apart since you can't get the tool in as far to get the leverage you need to pop em apart.

Yea, I figured as such. They are standard 10 rounders. For how cheap Glock mags are I may just buy another in the mean time but I got plenty of them. I'll try a really long punch on it.

[XDRoX]

Hell I have the hardest time just getting the baseplates off, wish they were easier. Even after watching videos on youtube and talking to a glock armorer mine wont budge. Its a bummer two because I can hear dirt rattling around in one of them :/.

You need one of these. These things are bad *** for taking apart glock mags.

http://mygtul.com/

[Sturnovik]

You need one of these. These things are bad *** for taking apart glock mags.
http://mygtul.com/

Sweet! I'll grab one of those. I mean I dont normally take them apart to often but when I hear junk and dirt in them I get worried and rotate them out for anything but range use.

[locosway]

I have 5 unused + floorplates that I need inserts for, I can order the inserts separately from Midway, but didn't realize that the bags with the basepads in them didn't have the inserts as well.

I can get the baseplates on and off with a little finessing, i'm just more concerned at this point with the mag dumping all the rounds on the ground, or possibly some issue with reliability, even though the insert adds negligible height to the spring.

How are you seating the mag that it pinches your hand? You should have your index finger indexed along the front of the mag, and when you slide it in the heal of your palm should strike the bottom of the mag.

Hell I have the hardest time just getting the baseplates off, wish they were easier. Even after watching videos on youtube and talking to a glock armorer mine wont budge. Its a bummer two because I can hear dirt rattling around in one of them :/.

The 10 round mags are way more of a PITA, but if you man handle them a little it's not so bad.

[LOW2000]

How are you seating the mag that it pinches your hand? You should have your index finger indexed along the front of the mag, and when you slide it in the heal of your palm should strike the bottom of the mag.

Without using a 3rd hand to get a picture, I do like you're describing, index finger indexes up the front of the mag with my thumb and middle finger on either side, but with the length of my fingers, that almost takes up an entire G17/34 mag, which puts the meat of my palm at the base of my thumb up against the body of the mag as well.

It doesn't always happen, but when i'm doing a hundred reloads for practice, it only takes one or two to get a couple blood blisters on the palm of my hand on either side of the mag.

[locosway]

Without using a 3rd hand to get a picture, I do like you're describing, index finger indexes up the front of the mag with my thumb and middle finger on either side, but with the length of my fingers, that almost takes up an entire G17/34 mag, which puts the meat of my palm at the base of my thumb up against the body of the mag as well.

It doesn't always happen, but when i'm doing a hundred reloads for practice, it only takes one or two to get a couple blood blisters on the palm of my hand on either side of the mag.

The base of the mag should always sit squarely in your palm, and then you index your finger along the front. Where your finger stops, is where it stops. You shouldn't get any pinches if you're doing it this way.

[Sturnovik]

How are you seating the mag that it pinches your hand? You should have your index finger indexed along the front of the mag, and when you slide it in the heal of your palm should strike the bottom of the mag.



The 10 round mags are way more of a PITA, but if you man handle them a little it's not so bad.

I hear ya. I hate these things. I may just buy one of those tools either way. Last punch I used I actually bent the damn thing. Who knows. With how cheap they are though its not bad.

[SDM44]

The +2 Glock mag extensions will work without the base plate inserts, but removing the +2 extension will be a little tougher than if you had the insert in there.

I run the +2 Glock mag extensions in my G19 and G17 mags, and I run the Pearce +2 mag extensions on my G21 mags. On the G21 mags, they don't come with an insert, either with Pearce or Scherer - only 2 companies that make the +2 extensions for the G20/21 mags. But everything works just fine.


I do run the G17 mag springs in my G19 with +2 mag extension, and an extended Wolff mag spring in the G17 mags with +2 mag extensions. I had a couple (out of 200 rounds) issues with failing to feed into the chamber, and those FTF's were enough for me to upgrade the mag springs. After another 1200 rounds through the mags, no problems after that.

[Lapietra]

Just curious, but if you add a +2 mag extension to a 10 round magazine arent you then manufacturing it to be a high capacity mag?

I thought you could only add the +1 or +2 extensions to mags to make them hold a total of 10 rounds. Like the +1 to the G27 9 round mag.

I know you can add +2 extensions to legally owned/obtained high cap mags, but I thought not to post 2000 10 rounders.