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  • PandaLuv
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 641

    Bullet setback: chambering without a mag.

    I'm glad that I learned about bullet setback while back, but I was curious, does the bullet setback still occur if you put the round in the chamber manually and release the slide without the mag?
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    scglock
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 963

    I believe bullet setback only occurs when the bullet rides up the feed ramp from the mag. I dont think it would occur if you just drop a bullet in the chamber manually.

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      fullspeed1
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 1908

      Isn't that a Bubba load?

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      • #4
        21SF
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3491

        Originally posted by jessegpresley
        Doesn't that damage your extractor, having to hop over the case rim?
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          PandaLuv
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 641

          good to know
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            jcaoloveshine
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 2654

            Yeah, not good to do on a 1911, even a robust modern gun like the Sig 1911. Puts more wear than you need on the extractor.

            Also not good to slam the slide shut on an empty chamber. Won't turn your gun to dust but is not good for the trigger sear and can screw up a nice trigger if done enough. Also logic tells me I don't need to put more metal wear on a gun than need be.
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              Corbin Dallas
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              • May 2006
              • 6292

              Point one, agreed. Bad idea to barney load a round through the extraction port. You will eventually end up with a chipped or broken extractor. I've seen it happen.

              Originally posted by jcaoloveshine
              Yeah, not good to do on a 1911, even a robust modern gun like the Sig 1911. Puts more wear than you need on the extractor.
              Point two, IMHO, garbage...

              Also not good to slam the slide shut on an empty chamber. Won't turn your gun to dust but is not good for the trigger sear and can screw up a nice trigger if done enough. Also logic tells me I don't need to put more metal wear on a gun than need be.
              There is more "SLAMMING" done by firing a round than by closing the slide on an empty chamber.
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              • #8
                Fishslayer
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                • Jan 2010
                • 13035

                Originally posted by PandaLuv
                I'm glad that I learned about bullet setback while back, but I was curious, does the bullet setback still occur if you put the round in the chamber manually and release the slide without the mag?

                No, but you're gonna be putting a lot of wear on your extractor. They're not designed to snap over the rim of the cartridge.

                Better to rotate your chambered rounds so the same one isn't getting slammed around all the time.
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                Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
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                • #9
                  Sturnovik
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2937

                  Dont do that to your extractor panda. Just load in the magazine and rack the slide like its meant to.

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                  • #10
                    Mickey D
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3502

                    Originally posted by Corbin Dallas

                    There is more "SLAMMING" done by firing a round than by closing the slide on an empty chamber.
                    The theory I understand is that when the slide returns to battery during firing, it is somewhat slowed down during the stripping and chambering of the next round.
                    It's best not to make a habit of slamming the slide home on an empty chamber.
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