I have noticed over the last few years that we pay MUCH higher prices on handguns in CA ( I am in the BAY Area). Then , I also noticed that we pay more for long guns too. In 2010 the new handgun law will kick in . Are guns going to keep going up here? Is this a good time to buy?
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As a rule of thumb, wages, housing, and the price of consumer goods is 20% higher in the S.F. bay area than it is elsewhere.I have noticed over the last few years that we pay MUCH higher prices on handguns in CA ( I am in the BAY Area). Then , I also noticed that we pay more for long guns too. In 2010 the new handgun law will kick in . Are guns going to keep going up here? Is this a good time to buy?
WRT fireams, my biggest mistakes have been in either selling or not buying.
I wouldn't recommend maxing out a credit card to but handguns now, but if you intend to stay in Califonia, firearms in general and handguns in particular may not be a bad investment.
The wild card is the ability and willingness of the California legislature and the political leaders to "ban" or restrict the possession of any type of firearm, negating your investment. -
Thats what I thought. Now. Are we talking about collectors type of firearms or guns in general.For example , I have a couple of really nice revolvers, a couple of extra mini 14's, few 1911's that I dont really have any plans for. ( I carry Glocks on and off duty.) Most people I know tell me not to to sell.As a rule of thumb, wages, housing, and the price of consumer goods is 20% higher in the S.F. bay area than it is elsewhere.
WRT fireams, my biggest mistakes have been in either selling or not buying.
I wouldn't recommend maxing out a credit card to but handguns now, but if you intend to stay in Califonia, firearms in general and handguns in particular may not be a bad investment.
The wild card is the ability and willingness of the California legislature and the political leaders to "ban" or restrict the possession of any type of firearm, negating your investment.Comment
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High-quality issue type handguns and collector (off-list) handguns in general.Thats what I thought. Now. Are we talking about collectors type of firearms or guns in general.For example , I have a couple of really nice revolvers, a couple of extra mini 14's, few 1911's that I dont really have any plans for. ( I carry Glocks on and off duty.) Most people I know tell me not to to sell.
USP's and SIG's. HK P7M8 & M13's. HK P9 series pistols. High-end 1911 types. Pre-series 70 Colt's, Mational Match Gold Cups, any pre-war Colt 1911 & 1911A1 type. Smith ASP's and Devel's. Pre-war Lugers. Custom service pistols built by noted 'smiths. Smith N frames, any caliber, pinned & recessed. Colt Pythons. Any currently manufactured pistol should be NIB if at all possible. Older NIB examples are also more valubale and costly to purchase.
Any of the above would be considered investments in today's California market.
Glocks, as much as I love them and I carry them too, aren't likely to really appreciate in value too much, unless they're banned as a class.
Personal preference plays a part too - I have no use for Beretta's unless I'm issued one. Same with Smith auto-loaders. Some people will surely disagree. YMMV.Comment
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I'm assuming that you're talking about the proposed 2010 microstamping bill. It hasn't passed into law, YET. If it does, it seems that most pistol manufacturers don't want to spend the money for retooling JUST to sell guns to California. So that means they won't sell to us. Which makes any self loading handgun you own, very valuable. You think prices are high now... If this bill becomes law, (if they aren't all sold) the last quarter of '09, the prices should skyrocket! Supply and demand.I have noticed over the last few years that we pay MUCH higher prices on handguns in CA ( I am in the BAY Area). Then , I also noticed that we pay more for long guns too. In 2010 the new handgun law will kick in . Are guns going to keep going up here? Is this a good time to buy?-A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
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Originally posted by ar15barrelsAnd yes, this IS gun school.
Welcome to class.Originally posted by bdsmchsThere is life outside of Calguns
Originally posted by IrishPiratestop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!Comment
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My wife and I will be moving out of California and returning to the United States in less than a year. That is how I plan on dealing with the Golden States' firearm policies and the ridiculous costs here.
The Second Amendment is NOT about hunting.Comment
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High-quality issue type handguns and collector (off-list) handguns in general.
USP's and SIG's. HK P7M8 & M13's. HK P9 series pistols. High-end 1911 types. Pre-series 70 Colt's, Mational Match Gold Cups, any pre-war Colt 1911 & 1911A1 type. Smith ASP's and Devel's. Pre-war Lugers. Custom service pistols built by noted 'smiths. Smith N frames, any caliber, pinned & recessed. Colt Pythons. Any currently manufactured pistol should be NIB if at all possible. Older NIB examples are also more valubale and costly to purchase.
Any of the above would be considered investments in today's California market.
Glocks, as much as I love them and I carry them too, aren't likely to really appreciate in value too much, unless they're banned as a class.
Personal preference plays a part too - I have no use for Beretta's unless I'm issued one. Same with Smith auto-loaders. Some people will surely disagree. YMMV.
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With the exception of the Beretta comment of course.
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Yes microstamping was signed. If it doesn't get shut down by the office of administrative law expect prices of handguns to sky rocket into the $1000s in 2009 as people race to snatch them up just like the 2000 ban on "assault weapons".Comment
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I'm curious why many people are posting this kind of information. It does not make a difference as far as guns that are on the roster today. As long as the manufacturer keeps paying the renewal fee to keep the guns on the roster, you will be able to buy those same guns until they are either removed from the roster, or they go out of production. There will be no rush, and no price gouging, unless the FUD continues to spread. The informed people won't be affected by this at all.
The only thing this changes is that when/if this law goes "live", the new semi-autos submitted for testing will have to comply.Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.
Originally posted by NorCalK9.comAlso dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.Comment
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Yes, but look at the renewal dates on the roster. They're never more than a year or two away. So maybe the law won't affect us until 2011, it will still cause drastic changes in gun price/availability.I'm curious why many people are posting this kind of information. It does not make a difference as far as guns that are on the roster today. As long as the manufacturer keeps paying the renewal fee to keep the guns on the roster, you will be able to buy those same guns until they are either removed from the roster, or they go out of production. There will be no rush, and no price gouging, unless the FUD continues to spread. The informed people won't be affected by this at all.
The only thing this changes is that when/if this law goes "live", the new semi-autos submitted for testing will have to comply.-A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
*participation may vary by location. Not valid in California.
Originally posted by ar15barrelsAnd yes, this IS gun school.
Welcome to class.Originally posted by bdsmchsThere is life outside of Calguns
Originally posted by IrishPiratestop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!Comment
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Can't the manufacturer just renew their certification? How many years does the gun remain on the list after renewal? I'm sure Ex Post Facto law applies here: you can't make something illegal in 2010 that was legal in 2007."We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem. We can now fire in any direction and strike the enemy." ....Colonel Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller, Commanding the 1st Marine Regiment at The Battle of The Chosin Reservoir, Korea 1950Comment
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