Glock 17 Malfunctions??

[Bert Gamble]

Do Glock 17's have a problem with type 3 malfunctions?

When my daughter was shooting my Glock 17 in a class, she was having a bunch of type 3 malfunctions. I switched guns with her and had 1 myself. When she was shooting the XD she had no malfunctions.

I know that the problem was mostly her, being new to shooting and all. I am just wondering if Glocks are more prone to malfunctions since the only type 3 I have ever had was at the class while using the Glock.

[chim-chim7]

Hold it tghter.

[p7m8jg]

I've not seen a problem with that in shooting my own glocks (including the 17) or while at training. We see a lot of glocks on the range, they work just fine.

But if the XD fits her better and she shoots it better, that's the holey grail, no? Finding a weapon that likes you and you like it and you shoot well. I wouldn't hesitate to switch to a weapon that gave me or someone i was training, more confidence in their shooting.

[damndave]

Type 3 is a double feed if I'm not mistaken. Since it happened with multiple shooters, is it a bad extractor? Factory rounds or reloads?

[den888]

It is likely caused by "limp wristing".

[Bert Gamble]

Type 3 is a double feed if I'm not mistaken. Since it happened with multiple shooters, is it a bad extractor? Factory rounds or reloads?

I will have the extractor looked at since it happened to both of us, even though the gun is new.

The ammo used was factory.

[Voo]

A firm grip/stance usually takes care of this kind of issue as you're generally resisting the recoil, allowing the force to to transfer through the slide vs your arms/body (hope that makes sense).

But on the off chance that it's a mechanical/gun issue, a softer recoil spring can* help. Also a clean and polished chamber ensures that the shell is able to pull free with a minimal amount of force.

It can be a lot of different things that are causing your malfunctions, but I would methodically eliminate the easiest/cheapest possibilities first. ie- firming up your grip and stance is probably as simple as it's going to get.

Since you did mention it was a new gun, give the chance for the recoil spring to weaken. I hate saying that modern guns like Glock need a break in period, but I've always found new OEM springs to be very stiff (as they should be). Combine this with any other mitigating factors, and it might just be enough to give you issues.

[drunktank]

Ive had this malfunction with 2 or 3 different 17's in the past. Different ammo, mags, and shooters (mil and leo who have trained on the platform). I wouldnt say it is common, but it's mechanical and thinga break. Good luck!

[zfields]

Probally having less with the XD since its a bit easier to hold solid ( IMO ) then a glock.


Both are great guns. Get what she shoots best and is more reliable for her.

[G-forceJunkie]

What factory? Some is horrorably underpowered (I'm looking at you PMC.) Factory specs call for a 124 gr to be going at least 1148 fps and 115 1180 fps. Remember, the 17 was built around NATO spec ammo and most commertial factory ammo nowdays is underpowered compared to that.

I will have the extractor looked at since it happened to both of us, even though the gun is new.

The ammo used was factory.

[Bert Gamble]

What factory? Some is horrorably underpowered (I'm looking at you PMC.) Factory specs call for a 124 gr to be going at least 1148 fps and 115 1180 fps. Remember, the 17 was built around NATO spec ammo and most commertial factory ammo nowdays is underpowered compared to that.

The ammo was Blazer

[RollingCode3]

It is likely caused by "limp wristing".

This....

[Dhena81]

Type 3 is a double feed if I'm not mistaken. Since it happened with multiple shooters, is it a bad extractor? Factory rounds or reloads?

^^This is 99% most likely the case remember people even Glocks have issues a double feed IS caused by a failure to extract. I think it would be highly unlikely to have 2 shooters have double feeds with the same pistol. I think limp wristing a Glock is way over blown and really isn't as picky as people make it out to be. I've tried it with my Glocks by holding really low with a tea cup grip and I've never had a problem the only issues I've had or witnessed with Glocks have been broken extractors or new 10 round, bad, or aftermarket magazines.

[cineski]

A reliable gun should fire reliably no matter how you hold it. My tiny wife with girly wrists shoots a Glock just fine. Something's up with the gun.

[VictorFranko]

Limp-wristing causes Type II malfunctions (stovepiping).
A Type III sounds like something else is up. Probably the aluminum cased Blazer is at fault. Too late to check one of the rounds that failed to extract?

Here's a good video showing the result of limp-wristing using a G17