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  • J.Austin316
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 881

    AR legality question

    Hey,

    I've tried to search on here and ar15.com but have not had any luck. People have posted that once you slide a 0 round sled into an AR pistol it can then be taken out and used with 10 rd magazines. I have yet to find any information on this besides people saying that it is "legal." Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  • #2
    babe
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 641

    its legal.

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    • #3
      Fate
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2006
      • 9545

      You can upgrade it to 10 round mags after DROS. However, you STILL must use a BB/fixed mag setup while in CA. Can't use 11+ round mags in it.
      sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

      "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
      , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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      • #4
        Cyc Wid It
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4485

        Please read the flowchart on the top of every page. Also, refrain from using arfcom for legal advice. PS, belongs in centerfire rifles.
        WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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        • #5
          J.Austin316
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 881

          I know people can and do it... But where does it say you can? Or it just doesn't?

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          • #6
            J.Austin316
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 881

            Thanks

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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Seņor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Flowchart does not cover the single shot exemption, which is what the OP is referring to.

              OP, always remember, "That which is not forbidden is permitted"

              The PC does not indicate what is legal, it indicates what is illegal.
              The only time it indicates what is legal is when it is an exception to something normally illegal.
              The example in this case is the single shot exemption.

              It is illegal to manufacture a non-rostered handgun within California
              It is illegal to obtain a non-rostered handgun from a dealer.

              There are exemptions.
              One exemption is for cops.
              Another exemption is for PPT/Consignment.
              Another exemption is intrafamilial transfer.
              Another exemption is the "Dimentionally compliant, single-shot" configuration.


              That covers the exemption that makes buying/building the single shot AR pistol legal.

              So how then is it legal to use a 10rd magazine?

              It is not illegal to modify or upgrade a firearm so long as the gun does not pass through any unlawful status such as AW or NFA.
              Removing the zero-round sled and replacing it with a 10rd magazine does not create an AW, and it does not violate NFA.

              So we're back to the roster.
              It is illegal to manufacture or "buy" (for lack of a better word) a non-rostered handgun.
              Removing the sled and installing a magazine is neither "manufacturing" nor is it "buying".

              It's a simple modification and legal.
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #8
                dirtykoala
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 3476

                Originally posted by J.Austin316
                I know people can and do it... But where does it say you can? Or it just doesn't?
                laws generally dont tell you what you can do, they tell you what you cant do.

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                • #9
                  J.Austin316
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 881

                  Thanks cokebottle

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