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  • drclark
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1796

    Why cylinder flutes?

    This may be a dumb question but I have always wondered why "most" revolvers have cylinder flutes?

    Personally, I like the look of a non-fluted cylinder on "modern" double action guns. The only reason I can think is that it reduces the overall weight of the gun. However, I would think that a non-fluted cylinder is cheaper to make than the fluted variety.

    thanks,
    drc
  • #2
    tankerman
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2006
    • 24240

    Two answers I can think of,

    1. Flutes lighten the cylinder
    2. Increased surface area will allow heat to dissipate faster

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    • #3
      QuarterBoreGunner
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      • Oct 2005
      • 9389

      ^ #1 yes, #2 not so much. Heating's not really that much of an issue in a revolver.
      /Chris

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      • #4
        Overkill
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 776

        Flutes also give you a means to index the cylinder when reloading quickly. Helps maintain repeatability and develop muscle memory.

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        • #5
          bwiese
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 27621

          Probably in earlier days of gun metallurgy, a bit of lightening could be helpful for reducing wear on things like cylinder stops.

          There's also a slight reduction in left-right 'width' on a six-shooter since there are flutes positioned on the left & right of cylinder when cylinder is locked in battery.

          However, you'll still notice some 1800s revolvers having unfluted cylinders - Colt Walker, and maybe some of the Remington percussions IIRC.

          As QBG said above, heating is less of an issue and the relatively small change in surface area caused by fluting isn't gonna make any difference.

          Bill Wiese
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          • #6
            tankerman
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            • Mar 2006
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            Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
            ^ #1 yes, #2 not so much. Heating's not really that much of an issue in a revolver.
            my guess is you have never fired a couple of hundred rounds through a 454 in a day

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            • #7
              bwiese
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              • Oct 2005
              • 27621

              Originally posted by tankerman
              my guess is you have never fired a couple of hundred rounds through a 454 in a day
              That's an extreme case - besides, I again insist that the surface area delta btwn an unfluted vs fluted cylinder is so minimal that heat dissipation issues are moot...

              Bill Wiese
              San Jose, CA

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              • #8
                QuarterBoreGunner
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                • Oct 2005
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                my guess is you have never fired a couple of hundred rounds through a 454 in a day
                You would guess correct!
                Ouch.
                /Chris

                I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                Like who?
                Farmers.
                Who else?
                Farmers' mums.

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                • #9
                  tankerman
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                  • Mar 2006
                  • 24240

                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  That's an extreme case - besides, I again insist that the surface area delta btwn an unfluted vs fluted cylinder is so minimal that heat dissipation issues are moot...
                  I agree it is likely a moot point. But I can not prove that is the case, only speculate. Can you do the Math or are you just guessing as well?


                  But my goal was to show an extreme case. I frequently shoot 300-500 rounds through a revolver in a day and I bet there are plenty of folks that do the same. It does not take many 357's to heat up a cylinder.

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                  • #10
                    Crazyhorse
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2377

                    To reduce the weight, same weight barrel in a fluted config is stiffer, and it does reduce heat slightly.

                    With that said... It seems 99% of the guns on the market in the fluted config are to look pretty/kewl/badass/sexy... any benefit shooting is a side effect.
                    I could be wrong but my opinion.. look at all the .22s with them

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                    • #11
                      Pont
                      Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 194

                      I would think a fluted cylinder would be easier to work with gloves, when wet/oily, under pressure, etc.

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                      • #12
                        rivviepop
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 2528

                        Google hit on THR, debating the same thing:

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                        • #13
                          slocum
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 68

                          Originally posted by tankerman
                          my guess is you have never fired a couple of hundred rounds through a 454 in a day
                          Or .38 special for that matter - though I'm sure the .454 gets considerably hotter in a shorter time.

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                          • #14
                            QuarterBoreGunner
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 9389

                            38 special for that matter
                            Ok this I've done; but if we're taking about "in a day" it's still not really a problem. 200 rounds... in a day? That's plenty of time for the cylinder to cool off between shots.

                            Now 200 rounds as fast as possible? Nope. Haven't done that. But I still figure case extraction would be the biggest problem associated with heating in a situation like that.
                            /Chris

                            I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                            You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                            Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                            Like who?
                            Farmers.
                            Who else?
                            Farmers' mums.

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                            • #15
                              Army
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3915

                              I've noticed they appeared at about the same time the bored through chamber was patented. So, I'm betting on them actually being finger grooves to easier index the cylinder for reloading, then became "normal" for revolvers to have them.
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