new glock after xmas....

[fishnbeer]

its time for me to step it up from my first pistol (mark 3). been looking at quite a few, even shot a few but have a boner for glock 22. having never owned a glock, or real caliber handgun for that matter, dont know much about them.

im aware there are several different options for that gun (C models, gen 4) but havent shot those or know much about it. i was at target masters and shot a 17 that felt great, but im looking for a .40 . if i was to get a 9mm i would get beretta 92, but doesent meet my following criteria:

really i want an all around gun, plinking mostly but primary home defense, campsite defense maybe as a sidearm on my alaska trip. dont really want a compact size, or a very large size for that matter, something in between. or have 10 flashlights mounted to it, i just want a simple, reliable point-and-shoot no fancy bs gun and to me the glock looks like it fits the bill.

now reliability is huge for me, would the C model get gunk clogged in the ports and cause it not to fire? are gen 4 reliable like its older brothers? and what is rtf model? on glock's site it says it has 15 rd mags, they do have 10 rnders for ca correct?

[kablooie]

its time for me to step it up from my first pistol (mark 3). been looking at quite a few, even shot a few but have a boner for glock 22. having never owned a glock, or real caliber handgun for that matter, dont know much about them.
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now reliability is huge for me, would the C model get gunk clogged in the ports and cause it not to fire? are gen 4 reliable like its older brothers? and what is rtf model? on glock's site it says it has 15 rd mags, they do have 10 rnders for ca correct?

i want a glock 22 also... the fact you can interchange 9mm and 357 barrels is a nice option. i've heard the C model is louder and brighter (muzzle flash) and that may not be good for HD. i'm guessing you know the gen4 is off roster and b/c of that we get gouged on FTF pricing (at least from what I have seen). just my 2 cents for now...

[locosway]

its time for me to step it up from my first pistol (mark 3). been looking at quite a few, even shot a few but have a boner for glock 22. having never owned a glock, or real caliber handgun for that matter, dont know much about them.

im aware there are several different options for that gun (C models, gen 4) but havent shot those or know much about it. i was at target masters and shot a 17 that felt great, but im looking for a .40 . if i was to get a 9mm i would get beretta 92, but doesent meet my following criteria:

really i want an all around gun, plinking mostly but primary home defense, campsite defense maybe as a sidearm on my alaska trip. dont really want a compact size, or a very large size for that matter, something in between. or have 10 flashlights mounted to it, i just want a simple, reliable point-and-shoot no fancy bs gun and to me the glock looks like it fits the bill.

now reliability is huge for me, would the C model get gunk clogged in the ports and cause it not to fire? are gen 4 reliable like its older brothers? and what is rtf model? on glock's site it says it has 15 rd mags, they do have 10 rnders for ca correct?

I'd suggest just getting a Glock 17 (9mm). Ammo is cheaper, magazines hold more rounds if you move or visit another state, loaded gun weighs less. This is of course for plinking and HD/SD.

If you want something for an Alaska trip, I'd steer away from 9mm and .40, simply because they won't stop anything other than 2 legged vermin reliably, and even then when it comes to 2 legged vermin, it's never 100% guaranteed.

So, perhaps you might want to look at a Glock 20sf? The 10mm with hot loads is entirely suitable for defense against larger animals, and it can hold 15 or 20 (with extension) rounds while you're there in Alaska. The good part about the Glock 20 is you can get conversion barrels and shoot .40, .357sig, or 9x25Dillon out of the same gun with just a barrel swap.

Glock's are cheap enough, you could get a Glock 17 and a Glock 20 for the price of a nice wheel gun or 1911. You could run the Glock 17 and home for SD/HD and at the range, and then take the Glock 20 on camping trips. This is how I do it, my Glock 20 is my woods gun, and all the others are 9mm.

[locosway]

i want a glock 22 also... the fact you can interchange 9mm and 357 barrels is a nice option. i've heard the C model is louder and brighter (muzzle flash) and that may not be good for HD. i'm guessing you know the gen4 is off roster and b/c of that we get gouged on FTF pricing (at least from what I have seen). just my 2 cents for now...

You can't just put a 9mm barrel into a Glock 22, there are other parts that are different as well.

[Oceanbob]

The Glock 22 is a full size Glock and exactly the same size as the Glock 17. A Glock 27 is the Sub-compact version in .40. In between is the Glock 23, which will run a 13 round mag (or 10 round here in Californistan).

I would avoid C models or models with ports...first of all, they don't help a bit in reducing recoil or muzzle flip; what they do well is Flash Flaming Dirt up in the air above the muzzle...

Go rent a Glock 23. It is just the right size for plinking, home defense, holster carry in Alaska...etc. Look at this:

[locosway]

The Glock 22 is a full size Glock and exactly the same size as the Glock 17. A Glock 27 is the Sub-compact version in .40. In between is the Glock 23, which will run a 13 round mag (or 10 round here in Californistan).

I would avoid C models or models with ports...first of all, they don't help a bit in reducing recoil or muzzle flip; what they do well is Flash Flaming Dirt up in the air above the muzzle...

Go rent a Glock 23. It is just the right size for plinking, home defense, holster carry in Alaska...etc. Look at this:

I know the AK state troopers carry a Glock 22, but I just can't see carrying a .40 in Alaska as a primary defensive tool. There's some large animals up there, and a lot of them.

[Shellshocker66]

To answer some of your questions.

Models of a Glock 22, you can purchase a Generation 3 or 4, but the 4 will require you to get it via a PPT, SSE, or intra family aquisition, since the Gen 4 is not on the approved California safe handgun roster. Gen 4 offers changeable backstraps which is a nice feature for bigger/smaller hands.

As far as magazines, you will have to have 10 round mags. Some exceptions are if you owned larger capacity mags prior to 2000 for a Glock .40 cal. Generally any Glock can also accept a 10 round mag.

RTF=Rough Texture Frame, just a little more texture on the slide.

Compensated models. Never heard of one getting gunked up, it would be really hard to get that much collection of gunk that the gun wouldn't fire as long as you are maintaining the weapon properly. Personally I never seen a reason to get the compensated as the 22 is a larger frame Glock and handles the recoil nicely. And if you do decide to go the extra steps for a Gen 4 is already has the double spring which helps with recoil.

Yes Glocks are very reliable and are user friendly for a new gun owner. They are easy to tear down and clean, have no extra safeties to fuss with, and are very durable. But some Gen 4's are having problems especially in 9mm.

The nice thing about the 22 is you can also get an aftermarket barrel and a new mag and run 9mm through it.. Much cheaper to practice on at the range. If you go the LW conversion it runs about $150 with barrel and a Glock 17 magazine.

[maddoggie13]

I like to see the G28 imported into the US.

[Lumpia is sarap!®]

Best of both worlds would be a G31: overpenetraton and drop in a G22 stock barrel to shoot .40-no other modifications required.

[Distro]

You can't just put a 9mm barrel into a Glock 22, there are other parts that are different as well.

The high majority of the time yes you can, and with zero issues. I'd go as far as to say all the time but there is always the exception to the rule.

Two friends own the 22 with a Lone Wolf conversion barrel. They use the Glock 17 magazines and have been flawless over 1300 rounds combined. That was the reason I went with the 23 and a Lone Wolf barrel for plinking.

[locosway]

The high majority of the time yes you can, and with zero issues. I'd go as far as to say all the time but there is always the exception to the rule.

Two friends own the 22 with a Lone Wolf conversion barrel. They use the Glock 17 magazines and have been flawless over 1300 rounds combined. That was the reason I went with the 23 and a Lone Wolf barrel for plinking.

Yes, they do seem to be reliable, but I will never tell someone that you can just drop a 9mm conversion barrel into a Glock 22 and expect it to function the same as factory.

There's really no point to running a .40 with a 9mm barrel either. If you want to shoot 9mm, get a 9mm. Practicing with 9mm and then shooting .40 for SD/HD is asking for trouble with most people.

Just my $.02

[fishnbeer]

If you want to shoot 9mm, get a 9mm. Just my $.02

i agree. i dont plan on really doing anything to the gun. just want to get it and shoot the damn thing

[locosway]

i agree. i dont plan on really doing anything to the gun. just want to get it and shoot the damn thing

The only thing about your OP that puts me off on you getting a 9mm, is going to AK. The 9mm would be better than nothing, but I'd much rather have a larger caliber with more penetration. If you can swing it, I'd still go Glock 20 and Glock 17. That's my combo and I'm really happy with it.

[fishnbeer]

well im not getting a gun specifically for my AK trip. i just need to carry something up there other than my 22. as far as bringing a larger caliber im not sure if it will really make a difference for defense because i honestly beleive no handgun round can bring down a charging bear.... but the sound of a shot can deterr it. for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw

[locosway]

well im not getting a gun specifically for my AK trip. i just need to carry something up there other than my 22. as far as bringing a larger caliber im not sure if it will really make a difference for defense because i honestly beleive no handgun round can bring down a charging bear.... but the sound of a shot can deterr it. for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw

There are a few handgun rounds that will bring down a bear. Even a .22 can, if placed properly. But, I'd much rather have a wheelgun in .44mag or larger, or a semi in 10mm, over say a 9mm or .40.

If you're mainly going for SD/HD, I'd suggest a Glock 17 since ammo is cheaper, which will allow for more training. The difference between a 9mm and .40 is negligible when talking SD/HD situations. But, if you shoot the .40 better, than go that route. It's your gun, and you should be happy with it.