Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Decocking a 1911

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • mud99
    • Oct 2011
    • 1075

    Decocking a 1911

    So I just picked up my Kimber tonight from jail - the manual says NOT to decock the gun by holding the hammer and lowering slowly.

    It recommmends that I dry fire it, otherwise I could damage the sear?

    Doesn't make sense to me, can someone explain? I've always been told to never dry fire a gun.

    Mark
  • #2
    G60
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3989

    the only safe way to decock a 1911 is by unloading it first.
    "Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment." - Dr. Huey P. Newton

    Comment

    • #3
      mud99
      • Oct 2011
      • 1075

      understood, thus the reason I said "dry fire"

      Comment

      • #4
        dirtykoala
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 3476

        you can dry fire newer guns, doesnt hurt them.

        older guns had crappier metal sometimes, and dry firing would sometimes lead to the firing pin breaking. thats not really the case anymore.

        Comment

        • #5
          InGrAM
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 3699

          Dry fire your 1911 all the time, it is good for you.

          Comment

          • #6
            SLO1911Fan
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 1483

            Originally posted by dirtykoala
            you can dry fire newer guns, doesnt hurt them.

            older guns had crappier metal sometimes, and dry firing would sometimes lead to the firing pin breaking. thats not really the case anymore.
            There are a great many exceptions to this statement, but MOST 1911s are perfectly safe to dry fire.
            I'm a big old, bourbon-soaked cigar-huffing ***, as God in his infinite wisdom meant me to be. - Charlie Sheen.

            Comment

            • #7
              PRCABR4Christ
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 954

              Originally posted by SLO1911Fan
              There are a great many exceptions to this statement, but ALL 1911s are perfectly safe to dry fire.
              fixed it for you...

              your 1911 is just fine to dry fire, I would even encourage it so you can get used to the wonderful single action trigger pull
              Good saddles ain't cheap...and cheap saddles ain't good

              I have a custom spur and western decoration business! http://www.facebook.com/pages/JH-Spurs/211804625565944 & http://www.etsy.com/shop/JHSpurs?ref=si_shop

              Comment

              • #8
                negolien
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 4829

                Yup, the way the trigger engages the sear can cause damage if lowered by the thumb and btw it's kinda hard with the beaver-tail safety lol. Dry firing allows the natural blending of the surfaces. This is one reason people are a little uncomfortable with Single Action pistols. The only way to decock safley is by dropping the magazine, racking the slide, making sure chamber is empty by visual inspection and maybe poking a pink in the chamber then dropping the hammer by dry firing.
                "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                George Orwell

                http://www.AnySoldier.com

                Comment

                • #9
                  Mr310
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5692

                  Better yet, just don't decock it!
                  WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. All statements and assertions contained herein may be subject to but not limited to: irony, metaphor, allusion and dripping sarcasm.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    five.five-six
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2006
                    • 34854

                    if you "decock" your 1911 by slowly lowering the hammer, as it was not meant to do, just think about where your hands are when your thumb slips and ADs on you, probable trip to the hospital and months of PT

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      bubbapug1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7958

                      Originally posted by negolien
                      The only way to decock safely is by dropping the magazine, racking the slide, making sure chamber is empty by visual inspection and maybe poking a pink in the chamber then dropping the hammer by dry firing.
                      I would say this is the only way to dry fire any gun, and its what I see practiced at any pistol match by every shooter at the end of his stage.

                      Its a great practice to adopt in all situations.
                      I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        IrishPirate
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6390

                        i was told not to dry fire a GLOCK in a shop one time because it would break it.....i asked how anyone could test the trigger before buying and they looked just as confused as i did when they said it was bad to dry fire GLOCKs. I left it at that because they obviously didn't know what they were talking about.

                        nothing wrong with dry firing a 1911, and if anything happened you would be able to say it was still under warranty since that is normal usage.
                        sigpic
                        Most civilization is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will. You regulate the appetites. You fence in the horizons. You make a law for every movement. You deny the existence of chaos. You teach even the children to breathe slowly. You tame.
                        People Should Not Be Afraid Of Their Governments, Governments Should Be Afraid Of Their People

                        ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          JTROKS
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 13093

                          Originally posted by IrishPirate
                          i was told not to dry fire a GLOCK in a shop one time because it would break it.....i asked how anyone could test the trigger before buying and they looked just as confused as i did when they said it was bad to dry fire GLOCKs. I left it at that because they obviously didn't know what they were talking about.

                          nothing wrong with dry firing a 1911, and if anything happened you would be able to say it was still under warranty since that is normal usage.
                          If you don't dry fire a Glock then how can you field strip it. There is a warning about repeated dry firing exercises and will cause this


                          In all my years of dry firing a 1911 I have only experienced one problem and it was due to a faulty firing pin stop. The FPS cracked once during dry firing and the other during an USPSA practice stage. I only use firing pin stops from these manufacturers: EGW, Ed Brown, Wilson Combat. So far no more cracked firing pin stop.

                          Decocking a 1911 with a loaded chamber takes a lot of care, if you must do condition 2 on a 1911 I advice getting insurance first. I highly advice against it with Series 70 1911s. With Series 80 that has some type of firing pin safety for some folks it is acceptable. Just make sure you have a good hold of that hammer when lowering it all the way or to the half cock notch.

                          Here's a Youtube video that explains it
                          Last edited by JTROKS; 11-17-2011, 12:25 AM.
                          The wise man said just find your place
                          In the eye of the storm
                          Seek the roses along the way
                          Just beware of the thorns...
                          K. Meine

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            c3 rolling
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 726

                            Carrying in condition 3 is ridiculous.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              negolien
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 4829

                              Ya I would do condition 1 now but I have spent alot of time with my SA Kimber II. It did take some time to be comfortable for me to carry that way though. Only because I hadn't carried a SA before. I also think alot of the IDF carry condition 3 IIRC since they're always in a populated area and even hitchike with they're weapons lol unless they're on duty I assume.
                              "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                              George Orwell

                              http://www.AnySoldier.com

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1