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  • FUBAR
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 2453

    1911 CCO

    I'm thinking about getting a 1911 CCO. The Colt was my first pick but they are near impossible to get nowadays. So a more realistic choice is either the S&W 1911 ES or the Sig 1911 RCS. I can get both for the same price. I like the looks of the Sig mostly because it doesn't have the front serrations like the S&W does. I know the Sig has a more squared off slide making holster selection a little more difficult. I've handled the S&W 1911 ES and was very impressed. What do the wise people of Calguns have to say about either of these two handguns.
  • #2
    PRCABR4Christ
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 954

    for a CCO...my choice would be a Dan Wesson, although the Sigs and S&W's aren't slouches, from the 2 you've selected I would go with the S&W just as long as I could fondle it beforehand as the last S&W I picked up had some aesthetic problems even though it was new
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    • #3
      9mmepiphany
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 8075

      The S&W would be my choice too. I haven't specifically shot the 1911ES, but I did have a chance to shoot the Gunsite version and was very impressed.

      I used to own a S&W 1911Sc and it shot very well...it's new owner continues to be very happy with it
      ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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      • #4
        billybob_jcv
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1507

        OP: So - have you already ruled out the other on-roster choices like the Kimber, Para, SA, etc?
        He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
        -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

        I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
        -Milton Friedman

        What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
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        • #5
          PRCABR4Christ
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 954

          Originally posted by billybob_jcv
          OP: So - have you already ruled out the other on-roster choices like the Kimber, Para, SA, etc?
          I wasn't aware of Kimber or Para making a CCO, which models?
          Good saddles ain't cheap...and cheap saddles ain't good

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          • #6
            billybob_jcv
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1507

            Originally posted by PRCABR4Christ
            I wasn't aware of Kimber or Para making a CCO, which models?
            You could be right - I was thinking some of their Commander-sized models had shorter grips - but they might not be as short as a CCO.

            Edit: For the Kimber, I was thinking of the Compact Stainless II:


            For the Para, I think you are right - I don't see any Commander-barreled models with an Officer's grip. Para seems to go the other direction - short barrels with larger grip frames.
            Last edited by billybob_jcv; 11-15-2011, 12:26 AM.
            He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
            -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

            I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
            -Milton Friedman

            What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
            -Woody Allen, Sleepers

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            • #7
              FUBAR
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 2453

              After googling a bit about the Dan Wesson CCO, I saw the Guardian in 9mm. I know its not a CCO but that is one nice looking handgun. I'm gonna check to see if my gun guy can order this for me. If he can, I think I've found what I've been looking for.

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              • #8
                billybob_jcv
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1507

                Dan Wesson does it right - no big ugly billboard on the side of the slide - and they are beautiful pistols with all the features that really make sense - and they leave off the tacticool nonsense. FYI, here's a really good review on the 9mm Guardian:
                He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
                -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
                -Milton Friedman

                What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
                -Woody Allen, Sleepers

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                • #9
                  sammy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3847

                  My vote would be for a S&W. They have the external extractor which was a problem in Kimbers but the Smiths are very reliable. My brother has a 5" Sig which is very nice but has FTF problems on a regular basis. It went back to the factory and got it fixed. Don't know what they did but it works well now.

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                  • #10
                    9mmepiphany
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8075

                    Originally posted by sammy
                    My vote would be for a S&W. They have the external extractor which was a problem in Kimbers but the Smiths are very reliable. My brother has a 5" Sig which is very nice but has FTF problems on a regular basis.
                    The external extractors on the S&W, Kimber and Sig are all very different in execution.

                    The extractor design of the S&W has been in successful use since the 50s...The new E-series is an improvement
                    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                    • #11
                      FUBAR
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 2453

                      Originally posted by billybob_jcv
                      Dan Wesson does it right - no big ugly billboard on the side of the slide - and they are beautiful pistols with all the features that really make sense - and they leave off the tacticool nonsense. FYI, here's a really good review on the 9mm Guardian:
                      http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=62
                      That's the article I stumbled onto while googling. Great review on the Guardian

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                      • #12
                        MrBrent
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 308

                        I own Dan Wesson CCO and it is one fine gun. They do a great job!

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                        • #13
                          banzaijohn
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 51

                          Originally posted by FUBAR
                          I'm thinking about getting a 1911 CCO. The Colt was my first pick but they are near impossible to get nowadays. So a more realistic choice is either the S&W 1911 ES or the Sig 1911 RCS. I can get both for the same price. I like the looks of the Sig mostly because it doesn't have the front serrations like the S&W does. I know the Sig has a more squared off slide making holster selection a little more difficult. I've handled the S&W 1911 ES and was very impressed. What do the wise people of Calguns have to say about either of these two handguns.


                          Bud's has them in stock:

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