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  • FUBAR
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 2453

    1911 CCO

    I'm thinking about getting a 1911 CCO. The Colt was my first pick but they are near impossible to get nowadays. So a more realistic choice is either the S&W 1911 ES or the Sig 1911 RCS. I can get both for the same price. I like the looks of the Sig mostly because it doesn't have the front serrations like the S&W does. I know the Sig has a more squared off slide making holster selection a little more difficult. I've handled the S&W 1911 ES and was very impressed. What do the wise people of Calguns have to say about either of these two handguns.
  • #2
    PRCABR4Christ
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 954

    for a CCO...my choice would be a Dan Wesson, although the Sigs and S&W's aren't slouches, from the 2 you've selected I would go with the S&W just as long as I could fondle it beforehand as the last S&W I picked up had some aesthetic problems even though it was new
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    • #3
      9mmepiphany
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 8075

      The S&W would be my choice too. I haven't specifically shot the 1911ES, but I did have a chance to shoot the Gunsite version and was very impressed.

      I used to own a S&W 1911Sc and it shot very well...it's new owner continues to be very happy with it
      ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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      • #4
        billybob_jcv
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1507

        OP: So - have you already ruled out the other on-roster choices like the Kimber, Para, SA, etc?
        He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
        -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

        I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
        -Milton Friedman

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        • #5
          PRCABR4Christ
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 954

          Originally posted by billybob_jcv
          OP: So - have you already ruled out the other on-roster choices like the Kimber, Para, SA, etc?
          I wasn't aware of Kimber or Para making a CCO, which models?
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          • #6
            billybob_jcv
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1507

            Originally posted by PRCABR4Christ
            I wasn't aware of Kimber or Para making a CCO, which models?
            You could be right - I was thinking some of their Commander-sized models had shorter grips - but they might not be as short as a CCO.

            Edit: For the Kimber, I was thinking of the Compact Stainless II:


            For the Para, I think you are right - I don't see any Commander-barreled models with an Officer's grip. Para seems to go the other direction - short barrels with larger grip frames.
            Last edited by billybob_jcv; 11-15-2011, 12:26 AM.
            He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
            -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

            I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
            -Milton Friedman

            What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
            -Woody Allen, Sleepers

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            • #7
              FUBAR
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 2453

              After googling a bit about the Dan Wesson CCO, I saw the Guardian in 9mm. I know its not a CCO but that is one nice looking handgun. I'm gonna check to see if my gun guy can order this for me. If he can, I think I've found what I've been looking for.

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              • #8
                billybob_jcv
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1507

                Dan Wesson does it right - no big ugly billboard on the side of the slide - and they are beautiful pistols with all the features that really make sense - and they leave off the tacticool nonsense. FYI, here's a really good review on the 9mm Guardian:
                Dan Wesson Guardian 9mm Bobtail Commander Made for concealed carry Reviewed by Harwood Loomis for
                He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
                -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
                -Milton Friedman

                What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
                -Woody Allen, Sleepers

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                • #9
                  sammy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3847

                  My vote would be for a S&W. They have the external extractor which was a problem in Kimbers but the Smiths are very reliable. My brother has a 5" Sig which is very nice but has FTF problems on a regular basis. It went back to the factory and got it fixed. Don't know what they did but it works well now.

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                  • #10
                    9mmepiphany
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8075

                    Originally posted by sammy
                    My vote would be for a S&W. They have the external extractor which was a problem in Kimbers but the Smiths are very reliable. My brother has a 5" Sig which is very nice but has FTF problems on a regular basis.
                    The external extractors on the S&W, Kimber and Sig are all very different in execution.

                    The extractor design of the S&W has been in successful use since the 50s...The new E-series is an improvement
                    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                    • #11
                      FUBAR
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 2453

                      Originally posted by billybob_jcv
                      Dan Wesson does it right - no big ugly billboard on the side of the slide - and they are beautiful pistols with all the features that really make sense - and they leave off the tacticool nonsense. FYI, here's a really good review on the 9mm Guardian:
                      http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=62
                      That's the article I stumbled onto while googling. Great review on the Guardian

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                      • #12
                        MrBrent
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 308

                        I own Dan Wesson CCO and it is one fine gun. They do a great job!

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                        • #13
                          banzaijohn
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 51

                          Originally posted by FUBAR
                          I'm thinking about getting a 1911 CCO. The Colt was my first pick but they are near impossible to get nowadays. So a more realistic choice is either the S&W 1911 ES or the Sig 1911 RCS. I can get both for the same price. I like the looks of the Sig mostly because it doesn't have the front serrations like the S&W does. I know the Sig has a more squared off slide making holster selection a little more difficult. I've handled the S&W 1911 ES and was very impressed. What do the wise people of Calguns have to say about either of these two handguns.


                          Bud's has them in stock:

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