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  • RGERBER
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2009
    • 579

    9mm 1911 needs help

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    paul0660
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2007
    • 15669

    First try a box of Hornaday HP. It has solved some problems for me without gunsmithing.
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    • #3
      ap3572001
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 6039

      I owned 3 1911's Colts . 2 series 70 and one series 80.

      For some reason, I never got the results as far as accuracy and function as I get with my full size 1911's in .45.

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        RGERBER
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2009
        • 579

        We just did a 3 day Handgun course in Coarsegold, Ca. at DFT with Rudy, shot about 1,000 rds. Through it there and had no problems with accuracy or feeding, it’s strictly a JHP thing. Like most 1911 - I really did not want to try every HP known to man to find one that works the price of JHP 3-4 boxes I could get it modified.
        I am partial to HST and have plenty here we can test with after the work is done.
        Once again the question – who in the FRESNO area do you recommend doing the work, and what types of things help this sort of problem.

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        • #5
          paul0660
          In Memoriam
          • Jul 2007
          • 15669

          Originally posted by RGERBER
          We just did a 3 day Handgun course in Coarsegold, Ca. at DFT with Rudy, shot about 1,000 rds. Through it there and had no problems with accuracy or feeding, it’s strictly a JHP thing. Like most 1911 - I really did not want to try every HP known to man to find one that works the price of JHP 3-4 boxes I could get it modified.
          I am partial to HST and have plenty here we can test with after the work is done.
          Once again the question – who in the FRESNO area do you recommend doing the work, and what types of things help this sort of problem.
          Well ok then. I bet it would feed Hornaday just fine.

          If you can find a 1911 mechanic to "fix" the problem for less than $100, let us know.
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            RGERBER
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2009
            • 579

            Sorry, did not mean to come off rude, what was the type of Hornaday ammo are you referring to?

            I am sure there are several

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            • #7
              paul0660
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2007
              • 15669

              Originally posted by RGERBER
              Sorry, did not mean to come off rude, what was the type of Hornaday ammo are you referring to?

              I am sure there are several
              Hornaday designs a smaller diameter tip on their HP. I had consistent problems with nose dives and FTFeed on 3 Kahrs and one 1911 9mm, which was under my care but not mine, until I tried their ammo, upon recommendation.

              I bought this: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...low-point-ammo

              It, and replacing the mag release spring in one Kahr, got reliability to plus 99%.

              It is worth a try. I do think a gunsmith could do work on the ramp and improve things as well..........but that is a crap shoot of sorts. Good Luck, and I apologize for being curt.

              I would like to hear how you solve your problem either way.
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              • #8
                chuckdc
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1919

                Check with Mayfield and see if Charlie Granger is still working there. If he isn't, find someplace else. If Charlie is still there, take it to him. He used to run GunTriks custom and does some just awesome 1911 work.
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                • #9
                  JTROKS
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13093

                  When it comes to hollow point ammo jamming you need to check the OAL of the cartridge. Usually HP ammo are shorter and have a wide nose cavity tompromote rapid expansion. Also with the wider nose of the bullet it might be grazing the slide stop tab delaying the front upper movement causing the cartridge to nose dive.
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                  • #10
                    PRCABR4Christ
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 954

                    Originally posted by JTROKS
                    When it comes to hollow point ammo jamming you need to check the OAL of the cartridge. Usually HP ammo are shorter and have a wide nose cavity tompromote rapid expansion. Also with the wider nose of the bullet it might be grazing the slide stop tab delaying the front upper movement causing the cartridge to nose dive.
                    That's my thinking...I would also tune the extractor as hollow points sometimes seem to need to come a little higher on the feed ramp to run well, another thing I would do is check the barrel throat and the feed ramp angle...

                    I didn't see if you specified, but how do the rounds fail to feed? Do they dive into the feed ramp, do they get stuck at an angle in the chamber?
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                    • #11
                      paul0660
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 15669

                      When it comes to hollow point ammo jamming you need to check the OAL of the cartridge.
                      this is very important as well. When guns are designed to the gnat's ***, like Kahr's, a silly half a millimeter makes a difference.
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                      • #12
                        Colt
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1596

                        I have a suggestion - try some Speer Lawman 115 grain FMJ. If it works, try some Speer Gold Dot HP ammo. The Gold Dots are pretty darn close to the FMJ. Gold Dot is also good ammo IMO.

                        Good luck.

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