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  • Dalkire1980
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 2

    selling a non ca approved HANDGUN?

    Hello, new here. I am a PO, I would like to sell a NON ca approved 44 smith and wesson to a buddy that is not a PO. I was told I can because I bought it first. This true. I want everything to be on the up and up here.
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    Lumpia is sarap!®
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 2267

    You're good to go.
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    • #3
      Dalkire1980
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 2

      Thank You, appreciate the info.....

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        Lumpia is sarap!®
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 2267

        No problem and welcome aboard!

        Non-rostered pistols for sale are only possible through a private sale or through an LEO to civi sale.
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        • #5
          JeremyS
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 2014

          The approved list only applies to sales from an FFL to a non-exempt (e.g. non law enforcement) person. That's it. Has nothing to do with a gun's legality or the ability to sell it via private sales, etc etc etc. You're fine.
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          • #6
            NeenachGuy
            Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 262

            Is there a limit to how many off-roster handguns an LEO can sell to non-LEO folks? This story that's currently running on Fox caught my attention. It seems like these Sheriff's deputies bought (large?) quantities of off-roster handguns and sold to non-LEOs, but now they are being investigated by BATFE.



            Also, would the non-LEO purchasers face any repercussions of this type of investigation? I assume that the firearms in question were legally transferred.

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            • #7
              paul0660
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2007
              • 15669

              Is there a limit
              Does the less than six per year thing work here?
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              • #8
                zfields
                • Aug 2010
                • 13658

                Originally posted by NeenachGuy
                Is there a limit to how many off-roster handguns an LEO can sell to non-LEO folks? This story that's currently running on Fox caught my attention. It seems like these Sheriff's deputies bought (large?) quantities of off-roster handguns and sold to non-LEOs, but now they are being investigated by BATFE.



                Also, would the non-LEO purchasers face any repercussions of this type of investigation? I assume that the firearms in question were legally transferred.

                Its playing the line of a "straw purchase"
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                • #9
                  bwiese
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 27616

                  • "PPT" (private party transfers) between individuals, mediated by
                    a CA FFL - with consequent paperwork & 10 day wait - are indeed
                    Roster exempt.

                    The Roster basically is a gating element for (re)selling handguns
                    that the FFL himself acquires. However, Roster does not apply to
                    consignment sales.
                  • People - regardless of LEO status - should not sell handguns, even
                    though required CA FFL is used - in over 5 transactions per year.
                    Note that the transaciton count is limited, not the actual number of handguns.

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                  • #10
                    Cokebottle
                    Señor Member
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by zfields
                    Its playing the line of a "straw purchase"
                    Straw purchase, and/or dealing without a license.

                    Given the BATFE is involved, and the BATFE doesn't give a rat's patootie about the roster (though they do insist that California law be followed)... I suspect that their primary interest is in the resales exceeding "infrequent"
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                    • #11
                      ruddogg
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2581

                      Originally posted by Dalkire1980
                      Hello, new here. I am a PO, I would like to sell a NON ca approved 44 smith and wesson to a buddy that is not a PO. I was told I can because I bought it first. This true. I want everything to be on the up and up here.
                      as long as you & your friend go to a FFL together and you sell it to him/her via a Private Party Transfer (PPT), which should be a $35 transfer fee to the FFL wherever you go, you should be good to go.

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                      • #12
                        CK_32
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14369

                        PPT = good to go.

                        Lucky friend. Like said above just don't be pulling a straw purchase.
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                        • #13
                          InGrAM
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3699

                          Originally posted by NeenachGuy
                          Is there a limit to how many off-roster handguns an LEO can sell to non-LEO folks? This story that's currently running on Fox caught my attention. It seems like these Sheriff's deputies bought (large?) quantities of off-roster handguns and sold to non-LEOs, but now they are being investigated by BATFE.



                          Also, would the non-LEO purchasers face any repercussions of this type of investigation? I assume that the firearms in question were legally transferred.
                          ****ing idiots are going to ruin it for every LEO....

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                          • #14
                            billybob_jcv
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1507

                            I see a future in a website dedicated to "CA LEOs wishing to advertise their excess firearms for sale". Maybe I should create one just to see how long it would be before I had a visitor with an IP address that traced back to the BATFE and/or the CA DOJ...
                            He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
                            -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                            I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
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                            • #15
                              savtru
                              Banned
                              • May 2009
                              • 92

                              Originally posted by billybob_jcv
                              I see a future in a website dedicated to "CA LEOs wishing to advertise their excess firearms for sale". Maybe I should create one just to see how long it would be before I had a visitor with an IP address that traced back to the BATFE and/or the CA DOJ...
                              LOL.... That is funny. I trace IP hits to my site all the time...

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