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these are not C&R legal nor legal on the roster correct?
I beleive they were but fell off the list in 2008 is that correct?
I beleive they were but fell off the list in 2008 is that correct?
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
Don't ask me why I know they fell off the roster because they were re-tested and failed. Not because of failure to pay the fees. :\I hate people that are full of hate.
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No mag safety.. I ordered one from J&G for $119 in 08. The day it dropped off roster was the day I picked it up! Close one....1A-2A=-1AComment
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Why would they be re-tested? I was under the impression that once you're on the roster you're on the roster, and all you have to do is continue paying the yearly "keep me on the roster" fee. Or am I missing something? So... Why do you feel that you know they failed some re-test for some reason?
Lacking a mag safety isn't a reason. Again, if you were on the roster before CA required a mag safety, you don't get dropped off. Guns previously approved stay on there as long as the fees continue to be paid. For example, every 1911 that's on the roster and lacks loaded chamber indicator and mag safety, all Glocks that have been on the roster. This is why you can buy a Gen 3, because it was on there before those requirements, but you cannot buy a Gen 4 -- they both lack the requirements of LCI and mag safety, but 3 was in before that and therefore stays in.
...there's always the CZ-83, Polish P64 (C&R), and a few others in the same size/design category...
.Last edited by JeremyS; 11-02-2011, 7:48 AM.Comment
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I would not be surprised if it failed due to an actual failure. I had one and while nice looking, was a POS. The safety lever broke after less than 200 rounds. The magazine would drop out when I racked the slide to chamber a round. I sent it back to KBI for repair then sold it at a loss.__________________________________________________ _____________________________________
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Mine was unfired when I got it. Got maybe 500 rounds through it without any problems.
Safety/decocker was pretty stiff when new, took it apart and cleaned it thoroughly, took some of the "point" off the safety detent and it was much smoother after that.
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From what I recall the DOJ re-tested them for some reason, and they failed the drop test. So they were removed from the roster. The docs are buried on Gene's site if you care to look, relating to the roster/Pena case.I hate people that are full of hate.
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