Horizontal Grip?

[huntercf]

Ok, so a vertical grip on an AR pistol is a no-no but how about a horizontal grip? Think of a vertical grip attached to the picanny rail on the side instead the bottom.

[ChrisTKHarris]

Kind of like on a Sten?



EDIT: Just saw AR PISTOL. That's a no-no.

[huntercf]

Yeah, like that except on an AR pistol or a draco.

[ChrisTKHarris]

Yeah, like that except on an AR pistol or a draco.

Just saw it was in reference to an AR PISTOL. I believe it refers to any sort of grip, not necessarily a vertical grip. I know there was a big hoopla about the angled foregrip, but because it wasn't technically a grip it was legal.

[santacruzstefan]

How about a monopod ?

[Cokebottle]

Just saw it was in reference to an AR PISTOL. I believe it refers to any sort of grip, not necessarily a vertical grip. I know there was a big hoopla about the angled foregrip, but because it wasn't technically a grip it was legal.

The AFG does not cause a handgun to become an AOW, but it's use on a featureless rifle is not recommended.

[redcliff]

Kind of like on a Sten?



EDIT: Just saw AR PISTOL. That's a no-no.

Just an fyi, thats a Sterling, not a Sten

[JeremyS]

ATF classifies pistols and handguns as being designed to be held and fired with one hand. The reason vertical foreward grips are illegal -- requiring registration as an AOW -- is because you now have a weapon designed to be held and fired with two hands, which means it's not a pistol. It's obviously not a rifle or short barrel rifle because it doesn't have a stock. It's an Any Other Weapon. UNLESS it's 26" or longer in overall length, in which case it's just a "firearm" and it's legal with the ATF with no special paperwork or fees. That's why the XO-26 from Franklin Armory is fine. Feds call it a firearm, CA calls it a pistol.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/041006-openletter-nfa-adding-vertical-fore-grip.html

I feel that a horizontal one would violate this same principal.


...however, you could mount a bipod on the front that could be grabbed. Since it is a bipod, it's legal. You can grip it, you just can't put it on intending to use it as a grip...

[ChrisTKHarris]

Just an fyi, thats a Sterling, not a Sten

Thanks

[InGrAM]

Kind of like on a Sten?



EDIT: Just saw AR PISTOL. That's a no-no.

That is a sterling

This is a sten


Damn, someone beat me to the punch lol.

[Write Winger]

Is there a "bipod" that's shaped or has the thickness to be held like a forward grip?

[JeremyS]

Is there a "bipod" that's shaped or has the thickness to be held like a forward grip?

Keep in mind that if it was also designed to actually function as a forward grip, it would be illegal. You would have to put something on the front that was designed and marketed for another purpose.

[huntercf]

Based on responses I am going to stick with my afg, no horizontal grips. Thanks guys.

[santacruzstefan]

Is there a "bipod" that's shaped or has the thickness to be held like a forward grip?

Yes, its called a monopod.

[Cokebottle]

Is there a "bipod" that's shaped or has the thickness to be held like a forward grip?

Yes... the Grip-Pod functions (poorly) as both.

It is also considered a forward grip and would not be legal on a handgun or featureless build.