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  • hayaku
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 538

    P14 plastic grip failure

    hey gang,

    just wanted to relay what happened to me last monday at stan's pistol class (can't beat the experience for the money! exceptional class if you can make it).

    anyways, on saturday with the rifle/carbine class, my para-ordnance p14 functioned perfectly for the side arm transition drills. went back to the pistol class and the gun had a stuck trigger. refused to drop the hammer no matter what. fortunately i found this out during the dry fire practice session in the morning before any ammo was in the gun.

    i had a backup springfield 1911 in 38 super that i used for the morning class but ran out of ammo and didn't get to participate in the afternoon session. instead i took the gun to will o'hara in corona (specializes in 1911's and s&w revolvers - anything from mild to wild race gun) and he found the issue. great gun smith btw.

    the plastic grips on the stock gun has a tab on the back that covers a slot in the frame. the slot was cut in the frame to allow for the double wide trigger bar to fit in. the tab is just a cosmetic cover. over the years, that tab must've gotten weak and finally broke off. it fell into the gun and got jammed between the sear and the sear spring. it prevented the beaver tail from coming in all the way and blocked the trigger from traveling far enough to engage the sear. so it was a simple fix for will to remove the broken tab and the gun is fully functional again.





    i'll call para usa (new name of the company since i have the older generation gun - the original p14) to see what they have to fix this or just get the new alumagrips for the p14 line. makes ya think about plastic on a gun huh? lol

    this also has me thinking about the "2 is 1, 1 is none" theory (n-1). what do you do if your primary weapon systems are down? do your backups use the same mags, ammo, gear? needless to say, i have a new purchase list to get backups for all the gear to make sure i can stay in the fight...
  • #2
    Nelsona
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 255

    That totally sucks...but now you're ready for the next class!

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    • #3
      awall919
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 636

      Glad to hear your Pistol is back up and running. I hate having firearm issues at the range.
      WTB: 3/8" dovetail(airgin/.22 size) rail to picatinny rail adapter or 3/8" rail size dovetail 1"'rings

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      • #4
        Grumpyoldretiredcop
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 6437

        Never seen that yet, but since I'm planning on switching to my P14 Limited for USPSA next year, I'll sure be watching for signs of that tab breaking. The Alumagrips might be a good bet.

        Glad you got your pistol up and running, and a good heads up for all of us who shoot the P14 or its little brothers.
        I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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        • #5
          Reboot
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 57

          Good info to be aware of. I just took my P14.45 Ltd. to the range tonight and it outperformed my Glocks in every category. It would even fire rounda that the Glock couldn't make go bang. I'm glad yours was a simple plastic failure. I think you sold me on Alumagrips.

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          • #6
            joelogic
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 6593

            The alumagrips are awesome. The checkering is cut sharp enough to grip but not so much it hurts.
            Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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            • #7
              dfletcher
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2006
              • 14794

              I had a P10 a few years back, liked the gun very much. Para at the time used a plastic trigger, plastic MSH and plastic mag release all of which I switched out - if I didn't have the parts laying about it probably cost me an extra $50.00 or so. I wonder how much these guys save using plastic over steel/alloy and how many consumers decided to not buy because the parts are plastic and either not knowing how to switch out or knowing how & not wanting to spend more $$$.
              GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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