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glock hating? What does everyone have against polymer?
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In truth, according to the well-understood principle "circles of influence", most people buy things to feed an emotional need more than anything else. Their choice of gun "says something" about them ... regardless of the choice. They want to be a part of something, and they are deceived into thinking they can buy a sense of accomplishment instead of achieving it.
The fact that a lot of fanboi-ism revolves around 1911 and Glock pistols (and some revolvers) is more a reflection of an emotional commitment - in many cases - than anything else. This is owing more to the romance or mystique built up around these guns than any analysis of fitness-for-purpose.|
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I don't pretend to be an "authority." I'm just a guy who trains a lot, shoots a lot and has a perspective.
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In truth, according to the well-understood principle "circles of influence", most people buy things to feed an emotional need more than anything else. Their choice of gun "says something" about them ... regardless of the choice. They want to be a part of something, and they are deceived into thinking they can buy a sense of accomplishment instead of achieving it.
The fact that a lot of fanboi-ism revolves around 1911 and Glock pistols (and some revolvers) is more a reflection of an emotional commitment - in many cases - than anything else. This is owing more to the romance or mystique built up around these guns than any analysis of fitness-for-purpose.
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Easy there Turbo - that little smiley with the tongue sticking out signifies a joke. Not a *good* joke - but I was in a hurry...
BTW, by the time *any* thread gets to page 4, the probability of still being on-topic is pretty darn low. I won't even bother bringing-up the fact that discussing the possibility of whether there will be functioning 100 year old Glocks as part of this thread also seems a bit off the main road...
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There should be a name for this, like Godwin's Rule or Poe's Law.BTW, by the time *any* thread gets to page 4, the probability of still being on-topic is pretty darn low.
Unfortunately 'billybob_jcv's Law' doesn't have the right ring to it./Chris
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Like who?
Farmers.
Who else?
Farmers' mums.Comment
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I figured this thread would go on for a bit when I posted it, but four pages? HAHAHA. Guns were made to be shot, Glock, Kimber, S&W. There should be no such things as safe queens. Well taken care of is fine, but unfired? Blasphemy. How can someone hate on something that goes bang?Stupid people; They're breeding.
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What you say your having problems with your slide not locking back on your sig well you should have got a Glock
My 1911 had a FTE you should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
My Glock is Jamming and having FTF and all kinds of problems what ammo are you using its bad ammo Glocks eat anything.
I have one gun its a Glock I've never shot anything else they are the best you should have bought one.Comment
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Hear that sound? Off in the distance? It's the Wambulance!What you say your having problems with your slide not locking back on your sig well you should have got a Glock
My 1911 had a FTE you should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
Should have got a Glock
My Glock is Jamming and having FTF and all kinds of problems what ammo are you using its bad ammo Glocks eat anything.
I have one gun its a Glock I've never shot anything else they are the best you should have bought one.
Kidding of course. I always try to help people diagnose the actual problems they are having with their guns. Semi-autos work a certain way, the same user error that can screw up one screws up them all. Bad ammo screws up a Glock just as quick as it does a sig. Same goes with limp wristing and every other silly thing somebody can think to do to it.
The only time I would ever say "should have got a Glock" and even then I would only think it unless asked, is when somebody is clearly struggling and falling behind in training because the complexity of their gun is tripping them up. The guy with the Beretta 92, who can't get both shots off in the time alotted or misses by a mile when he does, and then is still trying to get his safety on (because the assistant instructor had to stop him from holstering it with the safety off) and gun holstered while the rest of the class is already completing the next drill and we are on day four of training when that stuff should be second nature already. That new guy clearly needs a gun that is easier to learn on because the mechnics of his gun are causing him serious issues (extremely common experience). The guy with the Beretta 92 who is keeping up with the class and doing great bought the right gun (for him). Odds are the second guy has been through the course or one like it before and is only just now worked out the kinks and able to keep up with the training that the Glock and Glock Clone users can master the first time around. Seen it time and time again.
I would never throw it in somebody's face. I would try and help them solve the issues they have with the gun they have - it was a really big investment and I too want them to get the most out of it. Only if asked if there was something they would have an easier time with would I bring up that they should rent a Glock and see if things go smoother for them.
When people have trouble with a Glock, and just can't seem to get the hang of it (especially when it comes to marksmanship) and they've invested a considerably amount time and effort trying to, then I bring up trying a 1911. The 1911 has its own quirks, and is not my first choice for a new shooter, but if the Glock and Glock clones aren't working then it is a good choice. The trigger is incredible, and once you get used to the extra step of working the thumb safety is fairly easy to learn on thanks to the same pull every time and very short reset. I just try and discourage them from doing their own gunsmithing. The leadning cause in Failure to Anything is a 1911 is a user added part. The next being failure to provide enough resistance for the gun to properly cycle (limp wrist/elbow/arm).Last edited by tacticalcity; 10-11-2011, 3:05 PM.Comment
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I started off shooting a Glock and I shoot them really well I love them for more than just a few reasons. The main reason I love them is I understand how they work and how to repair them. I think a lot of people need to understand their weapons more and how to diagnose them and what better and easier handgun platform than a Glock to learn how to do just that. I for one like the stock Glock 5.5lb trigger and one of my favorite things about a Glock is the reset among other things. My post might have seemed like I was sippin the hateraid but I'm far from it I'm more of a fat chick fun to ride don't let your friends see you on one kind of guyHear that sound? Off in the distance? It's the Wambulance!
Kidding of course. I always try to help people diagnose the actual problems they are having with their guns. Semi-autos work a certain way, the same user error that can screw up one screws up them all. Bad ammo screws up a Glock just as quick as it does a sig. Same goes with limp wristing and every other silly thing somebody can think to do to it.
The only time I would ever say "should have got a Glock" and even then I would only think it unless asked, is when somebody is clearly struggling and falling behind in training because the complexity of their gun is tripping them up. The guy with the Beretta 92, who can't get both shots off in the time alotted or misses by a mile when he does, and then is still trying to get his safety on (because the assistant instructor had to stop him from holstering it with the safety off) and gun holstered while the rest of the class is already completing the next drill and we are on day four of training when that stuff should be second nature already. That new guy clearly needs a gun that is easier to learn on because the mechnics of his gun are causing him serious issues (extremely common experience). The guy with the Beretta 92 who is keeping up with the class and doing great bought the right gun (for him). Odds are the second guy has been through the course or one like it before and is only just now worked out the kinks and able to keep up with the training that the Glock and Glock Clone users can master the first time around. Seen it time and time again.
I would never throw it in somebody's face. I would try and help them solve the issues they have with the gun they have - it was a really big investment and I too want them to get the most out of it. Only if asked if there was something they would have an easier time with would I bring up that they should rent a Glock and see if things go smoother for them.
When people have trouble with a Glock, and just can't seem to get the hang of it (especially when it comes to marksmanship) and they've invested a considerably amount time and effort trying to, then I bring up trying a 1911. The 1911 has its own quirks, and is not my first choice for a new shooter, but if the Glock and Glock clones aren't working then it is a good choice. The trigger is incredible, and once you get used to the extra step of working the thumb safety is fairly easy to learn on thanks to the same pull every time and very short reset. I just try and discourage them from doing their own gunsmithing. The leadning cause in Failure to Anything is a 1911 is a user added part. The next being failure to provide enough resistance for the gun to properly cycle (limp wrist/elbow/arm).
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