Sig Trigger issues

[Ccraig38]

Hello all,

I recently got my new Sig P226R Navy in 9mm, all thanks to yzernie (thanks Ernie!). I've had it for 3 weeks and already put 650 rounds down range. Prior to buying it, my cousin went through the police academy and was very anti-Sig and pro-Glock. His argument was that the Sig trigger was gritty and not very smooth. I've personally never had that problem, however I noticed my trigger is kind of "snagy". I finally traced it down to Part 28 - the Safety lever. When it's in a certain position (more down), the trigger snags, then gives and continues smoothly until the 4.4 pounds of force is applied. This is all in the single action position. It's been getting to me and I can't find much information about it online. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas or comments on how to fix this. I don't have a short trigger installed on it but I am considering one. Also, let me know if you want me to take some pictures to show what I'm talking about. Thanks for any help/advice in advance.

Cal

[GWbiker]

This is the place where the SIG experts roost.......

http://sigforum.com/

[Ccraig38]

This is the place where the SIG experts roost.......

http://sigforum.com/

I would, however I can't create an account because their registration e-mail system is messed up. Apparently they don't allow @gmail.com accounts... Odd.

[unusedusername]

There is a local guy at Valkyrie Arms that does Sigs, he may be able to help you out.

[tacticalcity]

What most Glock fanboys like myself like about the Glock is that it has the same trigger pull every single time and of the Glock-like guns has the shortest reset (out of the box). It's not the grittiness of the Sig, as the Glock trigger can be gritty as well, it is that the Sig is a DA/SA handgun with two distinct pulls. Which typically leads to two groupings (one high and one low) when trying to work at the speeds required in law enforcement training and shooting. Of course, any gun can be mastered with enough time, engery and dedication to the task. It takes more effort to master a DA/SA handgun than a Glock Safe Action or 1911 single action only type gun. There is a huge difference between target shooting at the range when have all the time in the world and realistic defensive shooting where you have less than a second to draw and fire multiple good hits. The simplier the action, the easier it is to learn on and master.

If you like Sigs, and can easily master them, more power to you. I am not knocking your gun or you. In fact, I am impressed as I had a lot of trouble with the DA/SA Beretta compared to the Glock (thought I had no idea until I switched to a Glock and saw a massive jump in my ability and learning curve) so you're a better man than me. I am just trying to better explain why Glock guys like Glocks better than they do Sigs. The difference in actions is the main reason why. Not the feel of the trigger.

[jeffrice6]

Sig makes a fine pistol.... Some of my triggers came good and some a bit rough. If its bothering you, & before replacing parts, you may want to look into a trigger job. Usually saving time and money in the long run! Contact 1911whore here on CG, great guy & does outstanding pistol work!

[Voo]

I wouldn't send my Sig to anyone except for Grayguns, Apex Tactical or Sigarms themselves.. that would be my order of preference..

The first two have well known, industry recognized Sig gunsmiths.. I've been very fortunate to shoot/handle a few of their full blown custom sigs.. The difference is quite profound..

[davbog44]

If you are comfortable detail stripping your P226: I found that when I converted my P220 Carry to DAK, an unintended benefit I got was the chance to to get all the factory grease off of the parts, get them wiped clean and then re-lubricated on my terms, which resulted in a smoother trigger. Granted it was now a DAK trigger, not SA/DA, but then I detailed stripped one of my P229s and did the same thing, and its trigger improved noticeably as well.

Often, SIG trigger pull issues will work themselves out in time, and there are quite a few knowledgeable SIG people who dry fire the heck out of their SIGs when they are new.

Of course, Grayguns mentioned above is probably the gold standard in trigger work.

[berg]

Since I'm sure most people won't know what "part #28" is here are two diagrams I found on google showing two different part #28s.

In front of hammer...


Below trigger guard...


Like many new rifles and pistols the triggers are often a little rough when brand new. Like already mentioned it will either work itself smooth with use or you can simply do what many gun owners do and have it smoothed up by a gunsmith.

[Ccraig38]

Since I'm sure most people won't know what "part #28" is here are two diagrams I found on google showing two different part #28s.

In front of hammer...


Below trigger guard...


Like many new rifles and pistols the triggers are often a little rough when brand new. Like already mentioned it will either work itself smooth with use or you can simply do what many gun owners do and have it smoothed up by a gunsmith.

Yea, that is my plan as of now. I noticed in the second diagram, its part 41. I disassembled last night cleaned it up and put back together and it was still happening. The odd thing is it doesn't do it every time, just every few. So I will wait until I put a couple thousand rounds through it and see what happens. If it keeps up, I will be calling around and see what I can find. Thanks for the help everyone.

[Bullwinkle]

If you're 100% sure that it is the Safety Lever (how did you determine that?), and you are comfortable stripping down your own pistol, then remove the part and check for burrs, both on the sides and in the pivot hole. Check the pivot pin, sear, and inside of the frame, also; anyplace the Safety Lever might rub against. Even the contact surfaces where the Trigger Bar & Safety Lever meet.

If you're not comfortable taking your pistol apart, then a 'smith is the solution; but note that having someone else work on the pistol (including you) who is not certified to do so voids the warranty. Your best bet (IMO) is to contact Sig customer service and send the pistol back to them (they'll pay r/t shipping for warranty issues).

Or, as has been stated, try cleaning and especially lubing around the Safety Lever better.

[Ccraig38]

If you're 100% sure that it is the Safety Lever (how did you determine that?), and you are comfortable stripping down your own pistol, then remove the part and check for burrs, both on the sides and in the pivot hole. Check the pivot pin, sear, and inside of the frame, also; anyplace the Safety Lever might rub against. Even the contact surfaces where the Trigger Bar & Safety Lever meet.

If you're not comfortable taking your pistol apart, then a 'smith is the solution; but note that having someone else work on the pistol (including you) who is not certified to do so voids the warranty. Your best bet (IMO) is to contact Sig customer service and send the pistol back to them (they'll pay r/t shipping for warranty issues).

Or, as has been stated, try cleaning and especially lubing around the Safety Lever better.

The safety lever pivots on that pin (part 52 on second diagram above), obviously. So I notice when it's tilted more down, the trigger will snag. If its tilted more flat and parallel with the frame, its smooth as a baby's butt. I obviously found this all out when the slide was off.

[Bullwinkle]

I notice when it's tilted more down

I don't believe the Safety Lever is supposed to tilt "down". The "elephant trunk" portion of the part should be flush with the top of the frame when at rest. I'll verify that when I get home.

Now assuming it's not supposed to tilt down, did you or a friend recently take the pistol apart? You'll notice in the schematic that there's a little notch at the bottom of the Safety Lever, and that notch is supposed to engage a corresponding tab on the Sear (part #24 in 1st schematic, 44 in 2nd). I can't imagine the part would even fit if it wasn't reassembled correctly, but it's something to check anyway.

HTH, and good luck with the resolution!

FYI - 1st diagram is correct part numbering.

[Plisk]

You're saying you discovered the Safety Lever is angled downward the trigger snags while the slide is off. Is it creating the same issue when the slide is on? Without seeing pictures of the gun itself, it's hard to understand where and what is binding exactly. I would talk to Sig or bring it to a competent Gunsmith to see if it's easily remedied.

Another solution could be to install a SRT kit.

[P220ST]

I would, however I can't create an account because their registration e-mail system is messed up. Apparently they don't allow @gmail.com accounts... Odd.

+1

I thought they just had something against me. I never signed up for that site with before I got my Sig and then I tried signing up with many different email addresses and it says my email addresses are not allowed.