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  • #16
    penciljockey
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 620

    Originally posted by InGrAM
    People like to customize their 1911's and do it themselves. I know I do. and if SA would make parts that I knew would fit in my SA, I would be much more likely to buy from them. I am talking about SA selling parts for SA owners. Not the world supply of 1911 brands.
    Yeah me too! That's all I'm saying.
    "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

    Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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    • #17
      penciljockey
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 620

      Originally posted by himurax13
      Things like the Ambi Safeties and the Grip Safeties they will only work on if you send the gun in. They will not sell them to you. They offered to replace my Grip Safety for free but I had to send my gun in. For half of the price of shipping to Springfield, I bought a Caspian Grip Safety from Brownells (C&R dealer discount) that was basically a solid piece, and not hollowed out like the original. 5 minutes of filing, and voila. I prefer customizing my stuff instead of having the factory work on it. The only thing I won't try is the front strap checkering. I have done a fair amount of work on this beauty .


      What thumb safety is that?
      "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

      Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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      • #18
        penciljockey
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 620

        Originally posted by himurax13
        Things like the Ambi Safeties and the Grip Safeties they will only work on if you send the gun in. They will not sell them to you. They offered to replace my Grip Safety for free but I had to send my gun in. For half of the price of shipping to Springfield, I bought a Caspian Grip Safety from Brownells (C&R dealer discount) that was basically a solid piece, and not hollowed out like the original. 5 minutes of filing, and voila. I prefer customizing my stuff instead of having the factory work on it. The only thing I won't try is the front strap checkering. I have done a fair amount of work on this beauty .


        What thumb safety is that?
        "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

        Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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        • #19
          penciljockey
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 620

          Really? Is that a fact?
          "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

          Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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          • #20
            penciljockey
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 620

            So are you saying all parts for 1911's should fit any 1911?
            "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

            Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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            • #21
              InGrAM
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 3699

              Originally posted by jessegpresley
              Kimber parts don't fit into Kimber guns any better than the average part by another manufacturer.

              SA parts don't fit into SA guns any better than the average part by another manufacturer.
              Well that is fine, but do SA parts match SA 1911 finishes better than say a Wilson or a Ed brown 1911 part? Yes. NTM a lot of people including myself like having one company make a set of parts, then everything can match. I am not getting what your problem is with this?
              Last edited by InGrAM; 09-27-2011, 4:58 PM.

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              • #22
                stormvet
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2010
                • 12681

                This poll shows how ridiculous it is to have a poll on this site and expect honest and thought out answers.

                If you read the question and answer it based off the question asked, how can any company not selling their product to someone that wants to buy it. Make it more desirable?

                The correct answer is it cant. That doesn't mean S.A. is a bad company or makes a bad gun. But are you really gonna tell me that because S.A. wont sell you a part that you may want, makes S.A. even more desirable to you then if they did. Come on.
                Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                • #23
                  NiteQwill
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 6368

                  Yes, in most cases a properly fitted government 1911 part will fit any 1911. Sans the obvious sig or s&with series platforms. Oversized parts are common and most, if not all, require fitting to some degree.

                  The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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                  • #24
                    penciljockey
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 620

                    Well I think SA would be making lots of customers happy if they offered parts like Kimber does. What's wrong with that? What SA 1911 owner wouldn't want that? I don't understand how anyone would say it wouldn't make owning an SA more desirable. Convenience is always something customers want.
                    "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

                    Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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                    • #25
                      penciljockey
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 620

                      I've actually emailed them about this. I doubt they will do anything about it, but it's worth a try.
                      "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

                      Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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                      • #26
                        penciljockey
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 620

                        Well what if it's as simple as wanting to change your blued grip safety for a non blued grip safety? I have a Springfield loaded and it has a black grip safety and I want to change it for a stainless for cosmetic purposes and I don't want to spend the money on a Wilson Bullet proof grip safety and on top of that send it to a smith to do the work. Do you see where I'm coming from?
                        Last edited by penciljockey; 09-27-2011, 7:23 PM.
                        "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

                        Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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                        • #27
                          -hanko
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14174

                          Originally posted by penciljockey
                          I just wanted to express my lack of satisfaction when it comes to the Springfield online store for 1911 parts. I was looking at Kimber's store and theirs rocks!!!! What's up with Springfield? I would think they would make a killing selling upgrades for their 1911's. Kimber even sells grip safeties to their customers and I imagine depending on what pistol you have it should be a drop in part. I just want to swap out my mim parts for stainless. Is that too much to ask Springfield? The grip safety is the one part which is giving me the biggest headache and the thumb safety is some work too. Please Springfield sell your parts to your loyal customers.
                          Just a few thoughts...

                          Both a grip safety and a thumb safety are not drop-in parts...they need to be fitted to the individual gun by someone with the correct tools (in this case, typically files and stones designed for the jobs). I'm not aware of drop-in variants for either part, but if you know of some I'll stand corrected.

                          Check Brownells, Midway, and any other sources you can find...good place to start may be the 1911 forums. You're now not only looking for the pieces but also for somebody with the knowledge to install them correctly.

                          If you're interested in a diy upgrade, and/or want to become VERY knowledgeable about the 1911, get Kuhnhausen's The Colt .45 Automatic, A Shop Manual. Volume I will give you way more than you're needing now and get you up to speed for other stuff, Volume II gets into racy mods. BEST money you'll spend on your .45.

                          hth

                          -hanko
                          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                          Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                          Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                          A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                          • #28
                            penciljockey
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 620

                            See everything everyone is saying would still stay the same except SA would sell the parts they make for their guns and sell them to their customers. What a concept!
                            "Tyranny derives from the oligarchy's mistrust of the people; hence they deprive them of arms, ill-treat the lower class, and keep them from residing in the capital. These are common to oligarchy and tyranny."

                            Aristotle in Politics (J. Sinclair translation, pg. 218, 1962)

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                            • #29
                              NiteQwill
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 6368

                              Penciljockey, I think you're missing the point... No 1911 part is truly drop in sans grips.

                              The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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                              • #30
                                bombadillo
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 14810

                                Originally posted by penciljockey
                                So are you saying all parts for 1911's should fit any 1911?
                                Yeah, pretty much. Any decent 1911 SHOULD fit other 1911 parts here and there with the exception of the oddballs like Sig and a couple others like smith and wesson. Parts should interchange without issue.

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