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  • DonP
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 33

    .357 Magnum - Would it pass through?

    Hello,

    Would a .357 Magnum hollow point travel through an average body from 15ft?

    I have a S&W model 686 loaded with Black Talon Hollow points for home protection. Where I live, the houses are relatively close together. My neighbor's side sliding glass door is probably about 40' from my side entry door.

    Thank you,
  • #2
    rojocorsa
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2008
    • 9139

    HP bullets are designed to to enlarge and dump all their energy into a given medium. That means that the bullet should not go through.


    A full size rifle round, OTOH...
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    • #3
      sk8804
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 721

      in my opinion any magnum cartridge should be "expected" to exit a human.

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      • #4
        DonP
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 33

        Rojocorsa,
        That was my thinking when I bought it 20 years ago. But I've never looked into any hard data on whether a 357 would stay internal to a body. The internet wasn't what it is now.
        Last edited by DonP; 09-10-2011, 6:40 PM.

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        • #5
          cali_armz
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 529

          if you're concerned with over penetration you might want to consider .38 rounds instead of .357

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          • #6
            DonP
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 33

            Originally posted by sk8804
            in my opinion any magnum cartridge should be "expected" to exit a human.
            That's what I'm thinking now. So I'm looking for some hard data. Or at minimum, a strong consensus from an educated group.

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            • #7
              Oceanbob
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2010
              • 12720

              I have shot lots of Black Talon...and the .357 round is heavy and expands well. It also travels fast and has more kick than most.

              At $3 a round these days, Black Talon is too expensive to practice with.

              Good stuff.
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              • #8
                cali_armz
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 529

                i think its best to avoid pulling the trigger at all costs. my solution is this. an AK with a bayonet. i figure the sight of my rifle would be enough to scare off a home invader without having to fire rounds.

                besides, no one in their right mind is gonna rush you if you've got that in your hands.

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                • #9
                  DonP
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 33

                  .38 may be a good idea. But would a .38 be as lethal?

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                  • #10
                    DonP
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 33

                    Originally posted by Oceanbob
                    I have shot lots of Black Talon...and the .357 round is heavy and expands well. It also travels fast and has more kick than most.

                    At $3 a round these days, Black Talon is too expensive to practice with.

                    Good stuff.
                    And as dumb as I am, I shot off a whole box because I didn't want to stop and buy cheap ammo for fun time. Wasn't that expensive when I bought it though

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                    • #11
                      cali_armz
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 529

                      .38 has more than enough power to deter a home invader.

                      personally though, i think it would be better to discuss this topic in the context of self defense rather than lethality.

                      we have the right to stop a threat, not necessarily end the life of the attacker.

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                      • #12
                        DonP
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 33

                        Originally posted by cali_armz
                        i think its best to avoid pulling the trigger at all costs. my solution is this. an AK with a bayonet. i figure the sight of my rifle would be enough to scare off a home invader without having to fire rounds.

                        besides, no one in their right mind is gonna rush you if you've got that in your hands.
                        Yes, but then there's still one bad person out there who may hurt someone else next time.

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                        • #13
                          gatesbox
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1860

                          Here is some good penetration data on .357. Looks like best case scenario of JHP could penetrate 24" or more.....

                          "Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt."

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                          • #14
                            gatesbox
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1860

                            Double post edited..
                            "Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt."

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                            • #15
                              cali_armz
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 529

                              Originally posted by DonP
                              Yes, but then there's still one bad person out there who may hurt someone else next time.
                              thats true, there are always two sides to the argument. generally speaking though, i think its best to avoid doing things which could potentially get you sent to prison.

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