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  • quarterscalelegends
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 115

    9mm shell blowout

    Just came back from the range and we had an interesting failure. My daughter was shooting her Beretta and suddenly it was smoking and she had powder on her hand. I pulled out the mag and cleared the chamber with a lot of work as it was jammed. Out came two pieces. The shell blew out the back. We inspected the gun, loaded the mag and it shot fine the rest of the day.

    My question is, has anyone else had this happen? Experiences?

    These are Miwall factory reloads.

    I dont want to hear, thats what you get for running reloads. I know that there is a risk with them. Just wondering if anyone has seen this happen before. We have only been shooting for 4 months or so.
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    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    It happens. Could be overcharged, could have been an overused case. Could have fired out of battery. Any number of issues.
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    • #3
      sammy
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 3847

      So the gun and magazine were fine? Go buy a lottery ticket, quick. I have never seen a case failure that bad that did not damage the gun. Call Miwall and send back the entire lot of ammo. Sammy

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      • #4
        quarterscalelegends
        Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 115

        everything is perfect. Just this shell

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        • #5
          GUNNTZ
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 923

          Looks like the case was weak and signs of weakness were not caught. Could be an over charge just like zfields said, it doesn't take much on some cases. Commercial reloads will never be like a hand-loader, crap slips through.

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          • #6
            XDRoX
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 4420

            Originally posted by zfields
            It happens. Could be overcharged, could have been an overused case. Could have fired out of battery. Any number of issues.
            My guess is it fired out of battery, but like what zfields said, could be other reasons also, it's hard to say.

            It sounds like you already know the risks in shooting reloads and don't need a lecture, but personally I wouldn't buy anything from them again. It could have been a lot worse. I wouldn't let my kids shoot reloads that I didn't reload myself.
            Last edited by XDRoX; 09-05-2011, 7:35 PM.
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            • #7
              quarterscalelegends
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 115

              This was on the bottom of a stack of 1000 rounds. We've already shot at least 900 out of the case.

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              • #8
                SLO1911Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 1483

                It appears to be flawed brass to me. In my experience when a round goes off out of battery you know. There would have been a large flash and I would expect to see more damage on the side of the case while the bottom remained intact.
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                • #9
                  Cyc Wid It
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4485

                  Ehhh I guess bullet setback is another possibility if it was at the bottom of a box (assuming stacked flats)? I've come across some bad examples before.
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                  • #10
                    CALI SHOT DOC
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 771

                    you are one lucky person that it didn't damage the gun. i've stopped getting miwall myself. don't like it now that i can reload my own
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                    • #11
                      BigDogatPlay
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 7362

                      Originally posted by zfields
                      It happens. Could be overcharged, could have been an overused case. Could have fired out of battery. Any number of issues.
                      Most likely cause is highlighted. It happens, even in new factory ammo from time to time. No QC is 100% in a high volume operation and a weakened case can slip through.

                      I have never seen a case failure that bad that did not damage the gun. Call Miwall and send back the entire lot of ammo. Sammy


                      You haven't seen many case failures then.
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                      • #12
                        g17owner
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 881

                        Originally posted by sammy
                        So the gun and magazine were fine? Go buy a lottery ticket, quick. I have never seen a case failure that bad that did not damage the gun. Call Miwall and send back the entire lot of ammo. Sammy
                        Beretta's are pretty robust. In fact they usually fare better than a lot of other closed slide pistols.

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