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  • skyhigh
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 12

    CZ's for competition use

    Don't see many CZ's at the local range, Pala, for the IDPA and USPSA matches. Is there a reason or am I just not seeing them. I'm thinking that the CZ75 SP-01 Shadow would be a great tool. I checked the USPSA production list and it's on there with a lot other CZ's.
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    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    They are becoming more and more popular. Since its a DA/SA, a lot of people dislike them due to 2 different trigger pulls, at least in the production shooters.
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      skyhigh
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 12

      Does that mean that you can't begin with the gun cocked with the safety on. I've only used a Glock so I don't know. The 1911 guys would have to do that.

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      • #4
        leelaw
        Junior Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10445

        Originally posted by skyhigh
        Does that mean that you can't begin with the gun cocked with the safety on. I've only used a Glock so I don't know. The 1911 guys would have to do that.
        1911s are single-action only. If they start with the hammer down, then they can't fire until they manually cock the hammer. There are single-action only CZs available, so I imagine it's possible to run a CZ the same, but I don't know the specifics about the competition rules.

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        • #5
          skyhigh
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 12

          There's a bunch of CZ's in all flavors. Not that a new gun will help shoot better but it's fun to try.

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          • #6
            smeg
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 941

            I just started shooting a cz75b SA for USPSA. A 1911 .45 was my original USPSA gun but i wanted to decrease my time back on target.

            Ideally I would shoot a double stack 1911 in .40 such as a STI. This would keep me in major and keep the SA trigger that I like.
            However, such 1911s just aren't freely available in california.

            Next in consideration for me would be the cz75b SA in .40. But while that is on the cal roster, I have not been able to find it yet and the local dealers also cannot find a supplier that has it at the moment.

            So in the meantime, I'm trying out a cz75b SA in 9mm. Installed the cz fiberoptic front sigh and competition rear sight.
            I like it. Same single action,... safety on,... holster routine as the 1911 but less recoil gets me back on target. The cz trigger is no 1911 trigger but is getting better as it breaks in.
            If I continue to like it, will move to a cz75b SA in .40 when I find one.

            Where I shoot, mine is the only cz, so not that popular here yet either.

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            • #7
              zfields
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2010
              • 13658

              Originally posted by leelaw
              1911s are single-action only. If they start with the hammer down, then they can't fire until they manually cock the hammer. There are single-action only CZs available, so I imagine it's possible to run a CZ the same, but I don't know the specifics about the competition rules.
              1911s are used in Limited, single stack, and open.

              CZ SA only are shot in Limited or open

              SA only guns are cocked and locked. Honestly in Open I dont know if there has to be a safety or not.

              CZ 75 SA/DA can be shot in production, limited, and open.

              To shoot production, the gun has to be DAO, SA/DA, or some safe action guns. DA/SA guns start chambred, hammer down and on safety if it has one.
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              • #8
                skyhigh
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 12

                Thanks to all, I need to be more familiar with the rules and maybe should consider shooting major. I recently scored and found a new Les Baer 1911 that after 100 rounds I shoot better than I've ever shot the Glocks.

                To SMEG, I'm wondering why you like the 75B vs the 75 SP-01 that is supposed to have better ergo and trigger system.

                I'm sure you have it but I'll post a link to CZ Custom where I got a lot of info. I do like the 75B and the cost is about half of the SP01.

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                • #9
                  lwlaml
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 675

                  I shot my first USPSA match with Prado Running Run today. I was surrounded by SP-01s!!!

                  Lester


                  Originally posted by skyhigh
                  Don't see many CZ's at the local range, Pala, for the IDPA and USPSA matches. Is there a reason or am I just not seeing them. I'm thinking that the CZ75 SP-01 Shadow would be a great tool. I checked the USPSA production list and it's on there with a lot other CZ's.
                  Lester W. Lam

                  Pistols and rifles and shotguns, oh my!

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                  • #10
                    zfields
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 13658

                    Originally posted by skyhigh
                    Thanks to all, I need to be more familiar with the rules and maybe should consider shooting major. I recently scored and found a new Les Baer 1911 that after 100 rounds I shoot better than I've ever shot the Glocks.

                    To SMEG, I'm wondering why you like the 75B vs the 75 SP-01 that is supposed to have better ergo and trigger system.

                    I'm sure you have it but I'll post a link to CZ Custom where I got a lot of info. I do like the 75B and the cost is about half of the SP01.
                    if your shooting a 1911, shoot single stack, or IDPA custom defensive handgun. You would get smoked in limited I hate to say it.
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                    • #11
                      Caseless
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1668

                      Originally posted by skyhigh
                      Don't see many CZ's at the local range, Pala, for the IDPA and USPSA matches. Is there a reason or am I just not seeing them. I'm thinking that the CZ75 SP-01 Shadow would be a great tool. I checked the USPSA production list and it's on there with a lot other CZ's.
                      The Shadow is overweight and cannot be used in IDPA. The SP-01 needs some minor tweaks (changing to lighter grips,etc) to be legal weight-wise in IDPA. The plain 75B is actually the most versatile model since you can use it in both SSP class and ESP class.

                      I guess part of the reason CZs are less popular at gun games is because they work out-of-the box 99% of the time, vs. the finicky but super customizable 1911 platform.

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                      • #12
                        zfields
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 13658

                        Originally posted by Caseless
                        The Shadow is overweight and cannot be used in IDPA. The SP-01 needs some minor tweaks (changing to lighter grips,etc) to be legal weight-wise in IDPA. The plain 75B is actually the most versatile model since you can use it in both SSP class and ESP class.

                        I guess part of the reason CZs are less popular at gun games is because they work out-of-the box 99% of the time, vs. the finicky but super customizable 1911 platform.
                        the phantom can be used though, but hard to get in CA.
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                        • #13
                          HighLander51
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 5144

                          Originally posted by skyhigh
                          Don't see many CZ's at the local range, Pala, for the IDPA and USPSA matches. Is there a reason or am I just not seeing them. I'm thinking that the CZ75 SP-01 Shadow would be a great tool. I checked the USPSA production list and it's on there with a lot other CZ's.
                          Try here

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                          • #14
                            zfields
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 13658

                            I think Adam Tyc took IPSC world champ shooting a CZ shadow also.
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                            • #15
                              skyhigh
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 12

                              What is the SSP and ESP class? I just shot the SP-01 for the first time. Great ergo, very comfortable. Long reset, I suppose that's because of the DA trigger.

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