Capacity vs. stopping power.

[ap3572001]

in Your opinion, in what type of situations, ULTRA high capacity can be handy and a life saver?

when would a 9mm pistol that is easy to hit with and can fire 20-30 plus rounds w/o a need to reload be a weapon of choice?

When would a 9mm Glock with several 33 rd sticks bring more comfort than a SIG P220 with a couple of mags.



I would like to hear some opinions. ( REALISTIC SITUATIONS ONLY)

[sequoia_nomad]

When you're severely outnumbered.

[l8apex]

This is a caliber war question packaged differently. When it comes to modern ammo, the differences in handgun caliber performance is minimal. Do a search on the forum. Coupled with the dismal track record of handguns vs rifle performance its easy to see why pistols are NOT considered primary weapon systems.

With the greater possibility of multiple threats, capacity trumps 'stopping power', I term I wouldn't use when discussing handguns.

Glock 19 with legal pr-ban magazine 15 + G17 reload 16 (loaded one down). And you have 31. How many magazines would you need with the P220?

.....pause for caliber war to start by non-SMEs.

[ap3572001]

[QUOTE=l8apex;6956777]This is a caliber war question packaged differently. When it comes to modern ammo, the differences in handgun caliber performance is minimal. Do a search on the forum. Coupled with the dismal track record of handguns vs rifle performance its easy to see why pistols are NOT considered primary weapon systems.

With the greater possibility of multiple threats, capacity trumps 'stopping power', I term I wouldn't use when discussing handguns.

Glock 19 with legal pr-ban magazine 15 + G17 reload 16 (loaded one down). And you have 31. How many magazines would you need with the P220?

.....pause for caliber war to start by non-SMEs.[/QU
NOT A CALIBER WAR. To make things simple, when does an ability to fire many rounds w/o a need to reaload becomes a BIG PLUS? I had this conversation at work yesterday with other range officers (LE) and would like to hear what people have to say on this subject.

[Snapping Twig]

If I was in the business of LE or the military, then I'd be favorable to capacity - but I'm not.

As a civilian, and beyond that, as a big bore revolver guy, I choose caliber.

I've never felt undergunned with a 6 shooter and I don't feel bad with a single stack 1911 loaded with 9 rounds of large cast bullets at 850fps.

I guess I'm one of those knuckle dragging throwbacks that like handgun calibers to start with a 4.

[zfields]

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[Paradiddle]

Several wise men who've either been in shootouts, or have studied the art of gunfighting their whole life have stated multiple times that a pistol should be used to fight your way to a long gun of some kind.

That said - a 9mm will kill you dead just as easy as a rock or a bomb. If that's what you shoot well then shoot it. High capacity should be a moot point for the normal person. If several people want you dead you are going to die and the size of your magazine will have little to do with anything.

[morfeeis]

For a Home invasion when i'm not sure how many bad guys there are i'd take my G19 with a g18 33 rounder and 2 of my pre ban 16 rounders. but to tell the truth if it was a home invasion i'd grab my AR and my pre bans and go to work with that over my pistol.

[Foriegn power]

Personal preference, I could care less if I had six rounds of .45 vs. six rounds of 9mm. In comparison of having 33rnds of 9mm, and 33 rnds of .45.

[ZX-10R]

Both but CA infringes on our rights to this choice. If we had this choice, we would never have this question. I would take both. 10 rounds of 45 or 30 rounds of 7.62x39.

[DannyInSoCal]

More rounds is more. Period.

I'd rather have some left than run short...

[redcliff]

How many adversaries do you expect to face and survive if their skill level is equal or close to your own without taking cover and being able to reload? I know of two Medal of Honor recipients who killed 6 and 5 enemy soldiers respectively with their 1911's apparently with a single magazine and lived to tell the tale. I can only infer they had "signifcant military experience".

Also ponder that in a military situation you're limited to FMJ and the calibres are NOT equal in that situation. While both 9mm and 45 acp are lethal (as is the 22lr and 25acp) theres a reason the .45acp was long considerred the king of stopping power in manageable semi-auto handgun.

In the end its a decision each person needs to make for themselves. Go with what you believe in.

[Ubermcoupe]

When you're severely outnumbered.

Agreed.

[mcat707]

in Your opinion, in what type of situations, ULTRA high capacity can be handy and a life saver?

when would a 9mm pistol that is easy to hit with and can fire 20-30 plus rounds w/o a need to reload be a weapon of choice?

When would a 9mm Glock with several 33 rd sticks bring more comfort than a SIG P220 with a couple of mags.



I would like to hear some opinions. ( REALISTIC SITUATIONS ONLY)

Or you can have the best of both worlds if you own a 45acp Glock 21 or Glock 30. Just get a KRISS Super V MagEx extension for your already legally owned hi-cap 13rd mag and make it a 30rd stick.

http://www.kriss-tdi.com/kriss-store.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl1&product_id=7&category_id=12

[atv]

More rounds the better, if I have to provide cover fire to give my family to escape, or if I an wounded, changing mags may be difficult. I never want to run out of ammo.