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  • Scandivious
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 144

    NRA ILA Question

    Just got a newsletter from the NRA-ILA and saw a statement that I never heard of and I need some confirmation?

    It states: "because California law allows a person to carry a loaded firearm when in immediate, grave danger, and also allows a person to carry an unloaded firearm openly. Therefore, claimed the court, Should the need for self-defense arise, nothing in [state law] restricts the open carry of unloaded firearms and ammunition ready for instant loading".

    I may be wrong and not have read every law but I never read anything about open carry but unloaded.
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    Gts408
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 324

    Open carry been around. You can carry a unload firearm on one side of your belt and the loaded mags on the other. But I wouldn't do it.
    The second amendment protects our Freedoms.

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    • #3
      Librarian
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44658

      Originally posted by Scandivious
      Just got a newsletter from the NRA-ILA and saw a statement that I never heard of and I need some confirmation?

      It states: "because California law allows a person to carry a loaded firearm when in immediate, grave danger, and also allows a person to carry an unloaded firearm openly. Therefore, claimed the court, Should the need for self-defense arise, nothing in [state law] restricts the open carry of unloaded firearms and ammunition ready for instant loading".

      I may be wrong and not have read every law but I never read anything about open carry but unloaded.
      See the underlined - they very carefully, and correctly, worded their sentence.

      Carry concealed (without a carry license) is prohibited by PC 12025.

      Carry loaded in public (again, without a carry license) is prohibited by PC 12031.

      No positive statement of law exists that says 'it is permitted to carry a concealable handgun UN concealed and UN loaded'; it is just the case that if one does that, one is not violating any prohibitions.

      There are complicating factors making that practice, well, impractical - principally school zones.

      Here on Calguns, as well as other sites, the practice is called UOC - Unloaded Open Carry.
      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        JeremyS
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2014

        About the other part of what the OP quoted -- that you are allowed to carry a loaded firearm when you are in immediate, grave danger. That doesn't mean going into a really bad neighborhood where you might get mugged. It means the time between when you have dialed 911 and when the cops arrive.
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