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  • #16
    InGrAM
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 3699

    I used to use the magazine floor plate. You just push and turn. Kind if like a bushing wrench. I use a plastic bushing wrench now.

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    • #17
      redcliff
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2008
      • 5674

      Originally posted by AeroEngi
      One more question guys. After cleaning the barrel, I noticed these lines/marks that go across the lands inside the barrel approximately an eighth of an inch from the muzzle. It's at the same location on each land. Is this normal? I've never seen it on any other handgun. Here's a pic

      My guess (and its only a guess) is its some type of machining chatter marks from the muzzle crown cutting tool or pilot for it. You might want to send that picture to Springfield Armory in an e-mail and get their take on it.
      Last edited by redcliff; 08-04-2011, 11:51 PM.
      "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
      "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
      "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

      "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
      although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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      • #18
        AeroEngi
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 2887

        Originally posted by redcliff
        My guess (and its only a guess) is its some type of machining chatter marks from the muzzle crown cutting tool or pilot for it. You might want to send that picture to Springfield Armory in an e-mail and get their take on it.
        Thanks man. I'll definitely send them an email first thing in the morning.

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        • #19
          redcliff
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2008
          • 5674

          By the way, thanks for the kind words guys. If I have any 1911 wisdom to pass on to all my friends here it's only because I've lived with em so darn long and made lots of mistakes and had good teachers to help me out. Fortunately I find 1911's easier to be around than a lot of women I've known and a lot less maintenance intensive.

          It sucks getting old but you learn a lot of trivia along the way

          And back to the subject of 1911's being their own toolkit, my personal favorite part is J.M. Browning including a screwdriver on the sear spring to remove the magazine release.
          Last edited by redcliff; 08-05-2011, 12:04 AM.
          "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
          "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
          "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

          "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
          although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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          • #20
            PRCABR4Christ
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 954

            Originally posted by redcliff

            And back to the subject of 1911's being their own toolkit, my personal favorite part is J.M. Browning including a screwdriver on the sear spring to remove the magazine release.
            I learn something new every day, I never thought about that...right on!

            I will say this though, the good thing about a bushing wrench is that you don't goober up the checkering if your spring plug is so equipped
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            • #21
              Cuda440
              CGN Contributor
              • Sep 2010
              • 3289

              Originally posted by redcliff
              I usually disassemble my 1911's also by removing the slide first and cupping my left hand tightly under the recoil spring as I push the slide off. Reassembly that way can be difficult though.

              Although the magazine floorplate is designed to serve as a bushing wrench, its quite easy to marr the finish if you use it as one, I prefer the heavy nylon bushing wrenches.

              And I never, ever turn the bushing while the bushing is in its lock-up position with the barrel, I use an empty case positioned like a stovepipe to keep the slide retracted a bit so that the bushing when turned is farther down the taper of the barrel and doesnt make hard contact where it can cause burrs in the bearing surface of the bushing. This is especially important if you use an ange bored match bushing.
              Yeah, I didn't even think about that, I use CMC powermags that have a nylon baseplate. I normally grip the gun around the barrel in my left hand with the muzzle up, with my thumb and index finger where I can turn the bushing, and I use the mag in my right hand to push the barrel plug. Push in, turn the bushing, then you can use your left thumb and finger to grab the plug as you release pressure so that it doesnt shoot across the room.
              Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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              • #22
                dalriaden
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 4556

                Push in, turn the bushing, then you can use your left thumb and finger to grab the plug as you release pressure so that it doesnt shoot across the room.
                Which is exactly what happened the first time I cleaned my kimber

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                • #23
                  AeroEngi
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2887

                  Ok, I sent the email and picture to Springfield. I'll let you guys know what happens when they reply back. Again, thanks for all your help.

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                  • #24
                    t0kie
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3419

                    They will take care of you, #1 cust. service. You may get a new barrel for free

                    Originally posted by AeroEngi
                    Ok, I sent the email and picture to Springfield. I'll let you guys know what happens when they reply back. Again, thanks for all your help.

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                    • #25
                      AeroEngi
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2887

                      Originally posted by t0kie
                      They will take care of you, #1 cust. service. You may get a new barrel for free
                      That would be sweet!!!

                      Do you think they will just send me a new barrel or will they have me ship the gun to them for fitting/installing the new barrel?

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                      • #26
                        JosephP
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1359

                        Originally posted by Buddhabelly
                        This.

                        The 1911 was designed to be completely detail-stripped with no tools.
                        It is different story if you have hi-end custom 1911s...
                        Bushing is very tight and you are not able to turn it with your bare hand.
                        I prefer wilson combat wrench since it is made with polymer to not scratch your pistol.

                        NRA Certified Instructor
                        Member of LASC

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                        • #27
                          renardsubtil
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1659

                          Originally posted by AeroEngi
                          One more question guys. After cleaning the barrel, I noticed these lines/marks that go across the lands inside the barrel approximately an eighth of an inch from the muzzle. It's at the same location on each land. Is this normal? I've never seen it on any other handgun. Here's a pic

                          That could be copper build up from the jacketed ammo. You may want to try and soak that barrel with Hoppes 9 for 30 minutes or so until you see green crap build up in the barrel from the copper disintegrating, then clean the barrel with CLP and a wire brush as usual.

                          That copper build up is pretty common. I think I use Hoppes to clean it copper residue out once every 500-1000 rounds.
                          "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

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                          • #28
                            AeroEngi
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 2887

                            Originally posted by renardsubtil
                            That could be copper build up from the jacketed ammo. You may want to try and soak that barrel with Hoppes 9 for 30 minutes or so until you see green crap build up in the barrel from the copper disintegrating, then clean the barrel with CLP and a wire brush as usual.

                            That copper build up is pretty common. I think I use Hoppes to clean it copper residue out once every 500-1000 rounds.
                            Ya I dunno man. I looked at the same area in my Sig P220 and it had nothing like that in the barrel. I'll clean the crap out of it when I get home tonight. It's a long shot cuz they look/feel like marks left by some kind of tool. I guess this is all I can do until Springfield replies to my email. I'll probably call them on Monday too.

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                            • #29
                              helpme
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 669

                              BUSHING WRENCH! Buy one

                              Or just check the box your gun came in because alot of the nicer 1911's come with a plastic bushing wrench straight from the factory...

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                              • #30
                                monk
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 4454

                                Originally posted by renardsubtil
                                That could be copper build up from the jacketed ammo. You may want to try and soak that barrel with Hoppes 9 for 30 minutes or so until you see green crap build up in the barrel from the copper disintegrating, then clean the barrel with CLP and a wire brush as usual.

                                That copper build up is pretty common. I think I use Hoppes to clean it copper residue out once every 500-1000 rounds.

                                Is it ok to soak the entire barrel? My XD has a crap load of copper fouling. I ran some hoppes copper solvent twice, brushing between and it cleaned it a bit but not as much as I would've liked.


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