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  • Time of Flight
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 252

    For all you "heavy hitter" buffs!

    This is an awesome article.

    Lies, Damned Lies, and Ballistics.

    Goes over and compares all the heavy hitting pistol calibers in great detail...

    460 Rowland, .38 Casull, .40 Super, and my personal favorite the 10mm...theres also a few more in there too...

    NOTE : This is updated from the original post to include some new and revised numbers, and a bit more detail in some sections. Oh and I spel...
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    21SF
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3491

    Good read thanks.
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    Originally posted by keenkeen
    "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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    • #3
      starsnuffer
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 2212

      Um, it's a 6 year old article consisting of a guy babbling mall-ninja theory using a bunch of numbers and no real world information or ballistics testing. No thanks.

      -W

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      • #4
        VegasND
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2007
        • 8621

        I thought this thread would be about this guy:
        People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
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        • #5
          Time of Flight
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 252

          Originally posted by starsnuffer
          Um, it's a 6 year old article consisting of a guy babbling mall-ninja theory using a bunch of numbers and no real world information or ballistics testing. No thanks.

          -W
          Ok I will agree that the part of the article containing the weird "Killing Power Formula" or whatever is kind of dumb, but in contrast of all the loads and there respective power levels are spot on.

          Besides it never hurts to to read a different perspective. Even if you don't agree with it or think its correct.
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          • #6
            starsnuffer
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 2212

            Originally posted by Time of Flight
            Ok I will agree that the part of the article containing the weird "Killing Power Formula" or whatever is kind of dumb, but in contrast of all the loads and there respective power levels are spot on.

            Besides it never hurts to to read a different perspective. Even if you don't agree with it or think its correct.
            I always felt this article was good and included a lot of real world information (and possibly the only decent thing coming out of arfcom).

            -W

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            • #7
              -hanko
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              • Jul 2002
              • 14174

              Originally posted by Time of Flight
              This is an awesome article.

              Goes over and compares all the heavy hitting pistol calibers in great detail...

              460 Rowland, .38 Casull, .40 Super, and my personal favorite the 10mm...theres also a few more in there too...
              A headache took over about halfway through that "article", but I did get through it. A quick summary...the largest diameter bullet tends to stop the fight soonest, given adequate penetration.


              Originally posted by starsnuffer
              I always felt this article was good and included a lot of real world information (and possibly the only decent thing coming out of arfcom).

              -W
              Good article, and by far not the only good arfcom stuff...try building an authentic retro rifle w/o the info on arf. Anyway, that article again reiterates adequate penetration and a big bullet.
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              • #8
                stormvet
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2010
                • 12076

                "Its shot placement", "Its shot placement", my 9mm is just as good. Maybe if I say it enough even I'll believe it.

                HA HA, had to have some fun with it before the "ITS SHOT PLACEMENT" crowd get's here.
                Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                • #9
                  CK_32
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14369

                  can someone summarize that for me?

                  too much to read too lazy to bother... whats the out come on them.
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                  • #10
                    CK_32
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14369

                    Seriously someone with a pressure plate and put a piece of steel on the front and take shots with the 9mm 45 and 40 and see what numbers pop up.. Its that simple so we can end this stupid knock down power bs everyone swears by.. If I had the equipment I would have done the dam thing and settled it once and for all.


                    So someone with a pressure plate and all calibers and a piece of steel do the test so we can end all this 9mm vs 40 vs 45 acp bs. Or give it to me and ill do it.
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                    • #11
                      ElvenSoul
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 17431

                      No love for the 44-40...former official gun of Texas Rangers.
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                      • #12
                        JanG
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1005

                        Originally posted by stormvet
                        "Its shot placement", "Its shot placement", my 9mm is just as good. Maybe if I say it enough even I'll believe it.

                        HA HA, had to have some fun with it before the "ITS SHOT PLACEMENT" crowd get's here.
                        but i'm a horrible shot so i take the biggest bullet and pray i hit something
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                        • #13
                          Time of Flight
                          Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 252

                          Originally posted by CK_32
                          Seriously someone with a pressure plate and put a piece of steel on the front and take shots with the 9mm 45 and 40 and see what numbers pop up.. Its that simple so we can end this stupid knock down power bs everyone swears by.. If I had the equipment I would have done the dam thing and settled it once and for all.


                          So someone with a pressure plate and all calibers and a piece of steel do the test so we can end all this 9mm vs 40 vs 45 acp bs. Or give it to me and ill do it.
                          Dude relax...This is not a 9 vrs 40 vrs 45 thread!

                          its more like a 10mm vrs .400 corbon vrs. 40 super thread...
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                          • #14
                            CK_32
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14369

                            Originally posted by Time of Flight
                            Dude relax...This is not a 9 vrs 40 vrs 45 thread!

                            its more like a 10mm vrs .400 corbon vrs. 40 super thread...
                            I'm relaxed dude... I was just saying.
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                            • #15
                              21SF
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3491

                              Also that would tell you nothing, we can come up with the numbers without the pressure plate and sensors.

                              All your going to get is the Pounds per inch, which wound tell you the whole story.

                              To many variables, that why no one had done that.
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                              Originally posted by keenkeen
                              "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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