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  • FatKatMatt
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 1009

    Kimber fail to feed

    I've had my Kimber Tactical II since March, and since then it's constantly had failures to feed; the factory magazine is a piece of crap so it's understandable if that malfunctions the gun, but I recently got some new Chip McCormick Power Mags that jam as well. I can only assume now that it's a gun issue and not a magazine issue; basically the pistol will never full feed the round, and I have to hit the back of the slide to chamber it all the way; this happens every ten to twenty rounds. Is there anything I can do to alleviate this?

    Thanks,
    Matt
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  • #2
    virulosity
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1569

    Check the chamber for lead and or burrs. Is this a new gun? My USP elite jammed every 50th round for the first 500 rounds in a similar situation until it broke in. I think target pistols have tight chambers. Run some steel cased wolf through it to accelerate the wear

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    • #3
      FatKatMatt
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 1009

      I've put about 1000 rounds through it as of today. I'll try some wolf if I can get my hands on any.
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      Benelli Supernova

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      • #4
        elenius
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 767

        What kind of ammo? I've only had that problem with my own reloads (loaded too long)

        Also, make sure the gun is clean, and oil/grease it in the right places.

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        • #5
          FatKatMatt
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 1009

          It's done this with Federal American Eagle, Winchester White Box and Magtech
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          Kimber Tactical Custom II
          Browning Semi-Auto .22 Rifle
          Benelli Supernova

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          • #6
            MedSpec65
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 634

            Kimber's website shows your Tactical II has an aluminum frame. I suggest you examine the feed ramp area on your pistol for gouges. I've heard many stories of aluminum frame Kimbers getting badly mauled by steel followers, especially those on Kimber mags. You can get some Super 7 Upgrade Kits from www.trippresearch.com for $7.95 ea and replace the guts in all your mags, including your McCormicks. The followers are hybrids; polymer with a steel ledge to connect to your slide stop. Other members have agreed this is a good solution. Good luck. Also, steel-case Wolf ammo can bust the extractor on some pistols. Careful.
            Last edited by MedSpec65; 09-24-2007, 10:45 PM.
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            • #7
              t001
              Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 421

              Yeah, some Kimbers are known to do this. An internal-extractored TLE I shot would fail to feed on the last round of the magazine every so often. Also failure to eject on the last round, too, though less frequently. Using Wilson 47D's and CMC mags didn't really help all that much. It was a fairly new gun, w/ about 500 rounds through it, and the pistol class I was using it for added another 500 or so rounds. There've been ongoing discussions on Kimber's feeding problems in various forums. Check out some of the threads on 1911forum.com Kimber Subforum.

              Some people say it's mostly attributable to extractor tension, especially when Kimber used external extractors. Others say it's just a breaking-in problems (although a NIB Colt Series 80 I tried never experienced similar break-in issues. Still yet others say it's Kimber's lack of QC. Many people say theirs run perfectly, so YMMV....
              Last edited by t001; 09-24-2007, 10:47 PM.

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              • #8
                EastBayRidge
                Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 480

                My Custom II had a very tight extractor and failed to extract/feed consistently. Took it to the shop after a few hundred rounds down the pipe, they loosened her up, and since then no problems that aren't caused by yours truly.
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                • #9
                  Kruzr
                  In Memoriam
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1751

                  Originally posted by MedSpec65
                  Kimber's website shows your Tactical II has an aluminum frame. I suggest you examine the feed ramp area on your pistol for gouges. I've heard many stories of aluminum frame Kimbers getting badly mauled by steel followers, especially those on Kimber mags. You can get some Super 7 Upgrade Kits from www.trippresearch.com for $7.95 ea and replace the guts in all your mags, including your McCormicks. The followers are hybrids; polymer with a steel ledge to connect to your slide stop. Other members have agreed this is a good solution. Good luck. Also, steel-case Wolf ammo can bust the extractor on some pistols. Careful.
                  The damage to the alloy frames is under the ramp. It's caused by the lower follower of the Chip Mc. mags with the split follower.

                  I'd forget the Wolf ammo and instead, check the extractor tension (assuming it's an internal extractor model.) Take the slide off, slip a loaded round under the extractor to the point where the primer is over the FP hole. Shake the slide mildly. The round should wobble but not fall out. If it's tight to the breechface, then it's too tight. If the round falls, it's too loose and needs more tension. If it seems too tight, then make sure the extractor channel is clean and check it again.

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                  • #10
                    smokycuh
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 705

                    this is good i read this. because i really was interested in buying a stainless or custom kimber.
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                    • #11
                      Bobula
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2007
                      • 9371

                      Send it back to kimber! They'' take care of you, right?
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                      Fascist pig....

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                      • #12
                        DANGERCLOSE
                        Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 185

                        1911's all need to be tweaked in some way to become reliable. they are notorious for this. it sounds like your extractor has too much tension or that the claw is hanging on the rim. the claw may be too sharp. common for this series. my para was like that, and my friends 1911s are also like that. if kimber will fix it, go that route. if not, gunsmith. beware the claw.
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                        • #13
                          glockman19
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 10486

                          this is good i read this. because i really was interested in buying a stainless or custom kimber.
                          I have 3 Kimbers and they have all been flawless. They have had their fair share of FTF in the first 50-100 rounds for one reason or another but after 500-600 rounds they are as smooth as you'd expect from a good 1911.

                          If after 600 rounds you're still having issues then send it back to Kimber they will take care of you.

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                          • #14
                            Franksremote
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 992

                            You may want to try and change out the recoil spring. It FTF when others shoot it, yes? If so, send it (at least call) to Kimber, they'll fix it and return it in a jiffy (or troubleshoot with you on the phone).

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                            • #15
                              vandal
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2821

                              Check the extractor tension. Also check the area directly opposite of the extractor (perpendicular to the breechface) for burrs. I had a Kimber with similar problems and found a raised edge directly opposite the extractor that was occasionally impeding the round from sliding up. A little filing and some polishing with a Dremel and all was good. Saved me shipping it to Kimber to have them tell me there was nothing wrong.

                              But it is probably too much extractor tension. With Kimber you either get too much or not enough. There are instructions at M1911.org IIRC.

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