LLama .45

[bigthaiboy]

Earlier today I had to drop off the Mrs. in Pasadena, and on my way home I spotted a Turners Outdoors sign and pulled into a little strip mall. I am always interested to see what is in their consignment cabinet.

I spotted a Llama .45 in a mirror-like blue steel finish with like new condition wood grips with little Llama gold shields. This Llama was in nearly new condition (blueing was about almost 100%) with no real signs of wear that you would expect on a second hand handgun. The sales assistant told me the Llama was bought in just the day before by a couple who looked like they were in their 90's, and the husband had had bad health for a while.

As it was a consignment, I had to pay the full amount today and wait 30 days before I can start the DROS. I paid $250 for it.

I didn't need another .45, but I was impressed by the Llama's finish and condition. The slide read: Llama Cal .45 , so it's not one of the newer Max-I's. I'm new to Llamas.

What are members thoughts / info on the Llama .45 and are there any good sources for spares and extra magazine?

Many thanks.

[Atmosphere]

My grandfather has a llama in .38 I believe and it is the worst POS ever. Jams, FTE's, etc. Even after my Dad fully stripped and cleaned it still had problems. He also noticed upon stripping it that it had really rough machining marks and looked nothing like his Colt 1911 in terms of quality. He also spoke to his Marine friend who basically reiterated the fact that it's crap and you'd do more damage if you threw it at your target.

[The SoCal Gunner]

My dad has a Llama in .380. I really can't say how reliable it is and my dad hasn't taken care of it. It has rusted and pitted, grips dried up and cracked. It was never cleaned until I decided to clean it for him.

I say no need to worry about what others think since it is yours already. Take it out shooting and see how that particular pistol is for you and report back to us.

[thefinger]

I've read some pretty bad things about llama .45's. I was interested in picking up a used one from a local shop, but after reading owners' responses I personally wouldn't invest in one. But you never know, $250 is pretty cheap for a .45, so maybe you got a fair deal?

[AJAX22]

If you decide you don't like it I'll buy it off you.

I have a llama in .38 super that I love. Supposedly they are hit and miss, but mine has been good to me. I've been wanting to pick up one in .45 and one in .22

so if you get bored with her.... let me know

[cush]

My Llama is the 22 especial, a miniature 1911 style. My dad bought it in 1957. I've heard that back then there was a lot of hand fitting, which is what can make it hit or miss on reliability. Mine works great, of course 22 doesn't really compare with 45 and like most 22s it is picky. Mine wants higher velocity ammo and likes Elly primers, so I feed it Aguila mostly.
-cush

[bigthaiboy]

The salesman was telling me that the elderly couple (he claimed were in their 90's) bought in three handguns into the store on Saturday, the Llama, a Ruger .357 mag revolver, and a french semi auto the salesman was unfamiliar with the model / make. Turners only took for consignment the Llama and the Ruger, as the french handgun came with 2 x 15rd magazines.

This appears like a case of the old gentleman was selling off his handguns as his shooting days were long over, as opposed to passing off his old duds. The saleman did make a mention that the gentleman had been suffering from bad health for some time. I could be wrong, but judging by the condition of the Llama it has had very, very few rounds through it, and has been very well taken care of.

As with buying anything used, you don't know how well it is going to perform until you get it home to test it. I guess I'll find out in just under 6 weeks!

If you decide you don't like it I'll buy it off you.

Thanks, Ajax22, I'd trade you for your new "Mac daddy" pistol, if it wasn't non-transferable..... Can't wait to see it after it's been parkerised.

My Llama is the 22 especial, a miniature 1911 style.

A miniature 1911 style handgun in a .22 would definitely be a very cool thing to own.....

[Army]

My Llama (early "large pistol") was as reliable as can be, even fed empty cases. Accuracy was an 8" pattern at 25yds, but that is still minute-of-bad guy across the room.

Nothing to write home about, but the pistol never bobbled its ammo and never failed to fire.

[Stanze]

I've handled and attempted to shoot several Llama .380 auto pistols, all were jam-o-matics. Makes a nice scaled down "working" replica model of a 1911 pistol though.

My buddy has a 1911 style double stacked .45 "poor man's Para-Ord" Llama. All steel construction, fun shooter. Never jammed in all the times I've shoot it and witnessed it being shot with reloads or factory ammo. The grip was WIDE! Probably the widest I've held for a auto pistol. I understand 1911 parts won't fit on Llama .45 pistols as well.

[pogo]

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So bigthaiboy it you see this, did you put the LLama through the paces, how did it perform, any problems? Just bought a new one on consignment myself, pick it up in a few days.

[Moonclip]

Anyone wants to sell or trade their .22lr Llama please let me know. As for yours it basically a crapshoot. Llama like most Spanish makers is hit or miss. I own about 7 Llamas in semi auto and revolver. Some are better than others.

Unfortunalely my .45acp example sucked, feeding problems and would not shoot POA. My 9x19 example which sounds like your .45acp in apperance is very accurate and does not jam unless extremely dirty but it only functions with ball ammo.

I semi collect Spanish handguns so I've dealt with this a lot. I wish you the best of luck.