I made a BIG MISTAKE at the RANGE today...

[duenor]

do they require pulling the trigger to disassemble?

[///D]

And I thought you were going to say u shot the ceiling or something like that. If spending money on more guns when you shouldn't is a bad thing...then I'm guilty of doing bad things all the time

[1911su16b870]

Some people are having M&P magazines popping out when shooting and broken strikers...

I have witnessed a mag popping out on someone during training. That does not fill me with alot of warm fuzzies I did not investigate further why it happened.

[TBoliv]

do they require pulling the trigger to disassemble?

Not required, but is one way of doing it.

Once you lock the slide back, there is a small lever in the rear of the mag well. Rotate it "downward" into the magazine well. Turn the takedown lever (like on a Sig) and remove the slide off the front of the frame.

Hell, the "3-dot combat sights" aren't even sight paint, they're little white stickers, and I've seen those fall off just from slight customer handling of retail guns.

Hmm. Weird. That's not the case with either of mine.

[adamsreeftank]

I think if you get a chance to shoot a Glock that has had a very small bit of work done to it you might rethink your aversion.

[Exiledviking]

smith revolvers are pretty good but their autos really suck.

Yeah... My 4 S&W autos just keep sucking up all of the ammo I put in 'em.
I have put over 3,000 rounds thru my 9mm M&P without a single hiccup. I ran over 2,000 rounds thru it without cleaning it.

[Luv44mag]

and my first child about to be born in 3 weeks...

Now you have to buy a few new guns for your kid...............

[8200rpm]

I've tried Glocks with nice trigger jobs. I can't complain about those triggers. If I was in desperate need for a gun, and a Glock was sitting in front of me, I would not hesitate to pick it up. And, I would not feel poorly armed with it. They are great guns, and I do not doubt that they function.

However, if I'm going to pay money and live with something for at least several years, I want something else in addition to function. My bias against Glocks and XDs is based purely on aesthetics and personal ergonomics not function. In MY eyes, Glocks and especially XDs are just ugly to look at. And, my hands just don't agree with their grips.

Glocks remind me of a girlfriend of one of my classmates in high school. Her demeanor and personality didn't go over well with the rest of the boys. And when he was asked why he stayed with such a girl, he replied, "shut up, she f###$"! Well, most of the boys thought a girl should be more. But to him, that was all that mattered. I think her name was Jennifer, or was it Tenifer?

As for the M&P... I'll probably wait until the bugs are work out. I feel a bit uneasy about paying to be a beta tester for S&W. A reliability test like the JSSAP pistol trials of 80's would be nice. Zero stoppages in 15,000 rounds... GO P226!

[Crazyhorse]

A buddy of mine has the .40 but I'm not a fan. I like heavy handguns and the M&P doesn't fit my hand very well (I'm also not a fan of glocks). It seems very slide heavy and unbalanced. I will say thought we put like ~750 rounds through it in the first month and didn't have any problems with jams or the clip falling out.

[RECCE556]

The one thing I really like about the S&W M&P is the .45ACP version with a 1911-esque thumb safety...but I'm definitely in no hurry to be a beta tester, AGAIN, for S&W (I was a previous "unintentional" beta tester with one of their 1911's). It doesn't really surprise me that some M&P problems are cropping up...I mean this is the same company that gave us the Sigma and the other "less than reliable" Autos...

As for SIG's, I just dislike the SA/DA "feature" I think it's a horrible "feature". SA with a manual safety. The right way!