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  • #16
    shadow65
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1301

    Thanks for the explaination. In defensive tactics, we are taught not to ever put the Glock against someones body because an out of battery condition will cause the weapon not to fire.
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    • #17
      shadow65
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1301

      Ok, I pulled it up myself. Apparently there is speculation that it can happen, not only with Glocks, but other semi auto's. The degree of how far out of battery seems questionable.
      In theory, it could contribute to the infamous Glock Kabooms.
      Lots of theory but I'm just not finding hard evidence of Kabooms directly attributed to OOBD.
      So, I stand corrected. We were taught never to put the weapon against someone due to the weapon not firing when out of battery. Of course Glock also denies it which just reinforced my thought going through Glock Armorers Training.
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      • #18
        locosway
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        • Jun 2009
        • 11346

        Feeding a new round, if the gun is fired out of battery you will get a light primer strike, and the round may not discharge. In the armorer class the instructor showed us this happening with a weak recoil spring.

        If you press the muzzle of the gun against someone the gun will not fire.
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        • #19
          shadow65
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1301

          Well at least now I know where I got it from.
          Thanks,
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          • #20
            Ranger20
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            • Oct 2008
            • 1610

            Other than Weight forward is there any benefit or hazard in using a Steel Guide rod on a Glock 19? I've got the stock one that works fine and a new Stainless one that does as well.. Minor difference in recoil or getting back on target really.

            What say you about steel guide rods?
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            • #21
              locosway
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2009
              • 11346

              Originally posted by Ranger20
              Other than Weight forward is there any benefit or hazard in using a Steel Guide rod on a Glock 19? I've got the stock one that works fine and a new Stainless one that does as well.. Minor difference in recoil or getting back on target really.

              What say you about steel guide rods?
              There's no hazard in using one, but there's no need to use one either. The stock guide rod works fine, and they rarely break. If they do break, the gun will continue working until it's disassembled, at which time you can install a new $5 guide rod and spring.

              I keep a spare for my gun, but only because they're so cheap. I don't expect I'll ever break one, and now that they've changed the material of them, I don't think I'll ever come close to melting one either.
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