handguns in state parks

[chad68]

Sandals are the Glocks of footwear!

Birkenstock one, Mountain Lion zero.

Back on subject. Since the Feds don't consider black powder "firearms", why not carry a cap and ball .44, like they did way back in the olden days?

[Catman]

Now who's being dramatic? ( just kidding )


DFG should rescind the ban on hunting them, but I doubt they will. Are there more lion encounters... yes. However, being aware of your surroundings and knowing what to do, and what not to do on the off chance you should encounter a lion will serve far better than going into the wilderness expecting to be attacked.

You can not blame CDFG for this one. The idiot voters in this state banned the hunting of Mountain Lions by passing Proposition 117 in 1990. Then they had a chance to repeal Prop 117 with Prop 197 but it failed to pass.

[BigDogatPlay]

I do blame DFG, specifically the commission. Take a worthwhile proposal to the Legislature and get it passed that supercedes Prop 117. It was not a constitutional amendment, after all.

[Catman]

I do blame DFG, specifically the commission. Take a worthwhile proposal to the Legislature and get it passed that supercedes Prop 117. It was not a constitutional amendment, after all.

Prop 197 was defeted in 1996 by a vote of 58.12% no to 41.88% yes. Here is what Prop 197 would have done:

Repeals mountain lion's status as specially protected mammal. Requires Fish and Game Commission to manage mountain lions as it manages mammals that are not rare , endangered, threatened.
Requires Fish and Game Department implement mountain lion management plan that promotes health, safety, livestock, property protection; identifies priority zo nes where mountain lion removal has not alleviated threats.
Authorizes taking of mountain lions in priority zones, consistent with plan. Permits governmental agencies, landowners to take mountain lions imminently threatening public health, safety, or livestock.
Allows legislative amendments.

Those arguing in favor of passage were:
JACK PARNELL
Former Director, California Department of Fish and Game

DONALD NEAL
Wildlife Habitat Ecologist
TERRENCE M. EAGAN
Former Undersecretary, California Resources Agency

WAYNE LONG
Former Chairman, California Resource Conservation Commission

STEVEN J. ARROYO
Father of Mountain Lion Attack Victim

Those arguing against passage were:

PATRICIA FORKAN
Executive Vice President, Humane Society of the United States

JILL DAMPIER
California Park Rangers Association

BERNADETTE M. ERTL
Chair, Sierra Club California

HENRY MELLO
State Senator, Watsonville

MAURICE H. GETTY
President, California Park Rangers Association

WAYNE PACELLE
Vice President of Government Affairs Humane Society of the U.S.

Up until some time in the 1970's there was a $50.00 bounty on Mountain Lions. That was very nice sum of money back in the day! In 1967 I was hanging out with my Brother in Laws Cousin in Humboldt County. He was a Govt hunter-trapper. I went on a few wild bear chases with him and his pack of hounds. We only saw lion tracks one time and they were too old for his hounds to follow or we would had been on them. Now Lions are hanging around the suburbs munching on pets and eyeballing children. Not too many years ago one was killed by Palo Alto PD next to a school and the locals were up in arms over it. I think that you will have to see a lot more deaths of children and Joggers/Mountain Bikers before the dummy voters in this state would allow sport hunting of them to occur again.