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  • magnum8898
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 104

    1911 recoil spring

    Looking to upgrade the spring and slide stop in my Kimber 1911. Seems like the Ed Brown and EGW have good products. Next question, there are several different "weights" of recoil spring. Is there a method to determine what weight of spring to use? I shoot a mix of rounds, 230 grain hardball, hollow point self defense rounds. Most of which are above 200grains and full weight.

    'Soap Box' coming up. That is one thing that I love about the 1911, there sure is a large aftermarket of stuff you can upgrade, customize,fix or modify your pistol with. Plus the 45acp is available at any Wal-Mart, Kmart, sporting good store here in the good ol' US of A.

    Thanks
  • #2
    redcliff
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2008
    • 5676

    If by upgrade your slide stop you mean an extended slide stop, it's not an upgrade. If you want a better forged one thats fine, but they sometimes require fitting.

    Stock recoil spring on a 5" 1911 in .45acp is 16lbs. Bill Wilson does not recommend going over 19lbs on a replacement spring. I personally try not to go over 18lbs.
    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
    "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
    "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

    "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
    although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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    • #3
      guns_and_labs
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2004
      • 1094

      I usually try the different spring weights out (Wolff sample pack) and decide which "feels" right.
      "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Wayne LaPierre, NRA Press Conference, 12/21/12

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      • #4
        spammusubiboy
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 80

        I use 16 or 17lb springs. Never had a problem. Used 16lb exclusively until I got a bulk pack of Wolff 17lb springs for $1.50 a spring what I'm using now.

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        • #5
          PRCABR4Christ
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 954

          Originally posted by redcliff
          If by upgrade your slide stop you mean an extended slide stop, it's not an upgrade. If you want a better forged one thats fine, but they sometimes require fitting.

          Stock recoil spring on a 5" 1911 in .45acp is 16lbs. Bill Wilson does not recommend going over 19lbs on a replacement spring. I personally try not to go over 18lbs.
          anything above 18# may damage your barrel lugs, I would only use heavier than 16# if I was consistently shooting +P/+P+

          the spring weight on your Kimber depends on what size it is (5", 4.25", 4", 3.5", 3")

          what kind of "upgrades" are you looking to do? I use Wilson slide stops almost exclusively, they're fantastic, and already have the "Log Man" relief to prevent "re-assembly scratches"
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          • #6
            brassburnz
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 3553

            You're Kimber is probably set up from the factory to 230 grain hardball. You should be able to shoot 200 grain defense rounds with the same springs as long as they feed reliably.

            Your recoil spring and you mainspring work together to keep your pistol running correctly. Some people change to a lighter mainspring to get a better trigger pull, but you need to change your mainspring as well.

            I have about a dozen or so Wolfe recoil springs in various weights and a few mainsprings in various weights. Once I get a gun running correctly, I don't mess with them.

            If you replace the slide stop, just make sure you get the right one for the caliber of your weapon. There is a difference between a .45 acp and a 9mm/38 super slide stop.



            Originally posted by magnum8898
            Looking to upgrade the spring and slide stop in my Kimber 1911. Seems like the Ed Brown and EGW have good products. Next question, there are several different "weights" of recoil spring. Is there a method to determine what weight of spring to use? I shoot a mix of rounds, 230 grain hardball, hollow point self defense rounds. Most of which are above 200grains and full weight.

            'Soap Box' coming up. That is one thing that I love about the 1911, there sure is a large aftermarket of stuff you can upgrade, customize,fix or modify your pistol with. Plus the 45acp is available at any Wal-Mart, Kmart, sporting good store here in the good ol' US of A.

            Thanks
            NRA Life Member
            CRPA Life Member

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            • #7
              mtenenhaus
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 3416

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              • #8
                kazman
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 528

                Seems like 16-18 will be fine. Most of the forums I've read recommend 16. I use 18 wolf/wilson combat in mine and it's been fine. All of my local gun shop/range guys recommend 18.

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                • #9
                  steve92407
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 245

                  all five of my 1911s have wolf 18 except my commander has a 22# with no issues.

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                  • #10
                    magnum8898
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 104

                    Going to go for the EGW Spring and slide stop. The Ed Brown slide stop gets a lot of good reviews though. Then re-pin the gun using the Ed Brown rebuild kit and an arched main spring housing with laynard loop also from Ed Brown. Going for the arched with laynard loop for the retro/G.I. look. Besides having the gun attached to you might not be a bad idea. Probably saved a friends dad in Korea, not a fun story.

                    I will stick to the 16lb factory since I have yet to have any failures with that weight with the various ammo that I have shot. Maybe r&r the mainspring during re-pining.

                    Log man relief, is that were you kind of notch the slide stop so it goes over the pin easier? I have seen that on the 1911 forum, I have just been real careful on re-asemble to prevent the 'idiot' mark.
                    Last edited by magnum8898; 07-12-2011, 7:07 AM.

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                    • #11
                      JTROKS
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13093

                      I agree with the extended slide stop as not being an upgrade on a defensive gun. For recoil springs I like a variable weight Wolff in 17lb.
                      The wise man said just find your place
                      In the eye of the storm
                      Seek the roses along the way
                      Just beware of the thorns...
                      K. Meine

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                      • #12
                        magnum8898
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 104

                        On the slide stop, I was looking hard at both the Ed Brown and EGW since they are forged piece versus an MIM piece. Yeah, I know that probably most of the gun is MIM, but I figure I will slowly chip at easy to replace MIM parts with forged. What the heck, that is one reason why I bought a 1911, the huge aftermarket of parts. It is fun to tinker with both the gun and operator.

                        Based on the input above and since the Kimber groups the brass in a nice neat pile about 4ft way, I think I will stick with 16lb conventional spring.

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                        • #13
                          MongooseV8
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4426

                          I shoot with a 20LB spring in my Kimber, but I have a manly 10mm

                          I would stick with a 16-18LB spring like others advised.

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                          • #14
                            tacticalcity
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10916

                            I upgraded my Kimber Custom II to a Wilson Combat 17lb recoil spring. I got mine used and replaced the spring like I do on all the used handguns I buy just in case it was worn out. I'm not an expert, but it the little bit of research I did recommended 17lbs.

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                            • #15
                              DaveFJ80
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2066

                              My Kimber TLE runs a Wolff 18 lb recoil spring. Cycles through 230 grain FMJ and JHP ammo much better than with the stock 16 lb spring.

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