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[Foriegn power]

Hhh

[powderedtoastman]

I've had good luck with buffalo bore, and cor-bon makes some ridiculously hot rounds in all calibers. Be wary though, and make sure they function in your firearm, and make sure you can get accurate hits with them. When I went from one magazine of gold-dot .357Sig, to corbon pow'rball .357Sig, the muzzle flash and concussion were like a flashbang going off in front of my face. Not too practical it was, but nothing is practical unless you can shoot well with it.

[sk8804]

if you want them cheaply, buy some remington umc fmj. That stuff is loaded pretty hot.

[Slim///]

+1 on the remington. I can speak only for the .357. That stuff is loaded pretty hot compared tot he PMC i've shot.

[sk8804]

I have noticed more muzzle flip/recoil, flash, and noise with the remingtons in .38, .357, .40, and .45.

[pennstater]

How about Federal Vital Shok Premium handgun Hunting Ammo for your .357?
180gr Hard cast lead flatpoint[.357mag]
Next: .45acp:
Again, Federal Personal Defense Handgun Ammo: 230gr or Rem. Factory Golden Sabers w/ 230gr HP. Look around, Midway, Natchez and I think Cabelas all have these. Hope this helps.

[Sunday]

You really have no need hot rounds.

[NapaCountyShooter]

For the .45, I pack Cor-bon 185 gr. +p. That's pretty hot. Hotter than my SAAMI max reloads by quite a bit.
For the .357, get some Buffalo Bore 180 gr. hardcast loads. Good balance of power and speed.

[CalNRA]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Double Tap.

Good ammo, especially in 357. They had some pretty hot ammo in 45auto a few years back but they don't seem to be making them any more.

[rgs1975]

I use 180gr Hard Cast Flat Point Lead from Buffalo Bore in my .357 when I want a "hot" load. They hit hard, crazy hard and they have a significant increase in felt recoil. Here's one with my 586.

[zfields]

What kind of .45 is it. Some are really not ment for the hot loads some people are listing.

[BigDogatPlay]

Glock 21 and Taurus model 605 all steel snub nose.

In the Glock, the manufacturer will tell you not to shoot +P or +P+. Having said that, a +P 230 grain HP would work just fine if you don't shoot it all the time.

While the 180 grain Buffalo Bore, or the heavier Double Tap offerings, are really great rounds in an L or N frame S&W, a GP100 or a carbine, I wouldn't want to think about lighting one of those off in a Taurus 605.

FWIW, I shoot the Buffalo Bore round in a six inch Model 28, and in my Marlin 1894 carbine. Very effective, but very, very potent. I will not shoot the Buffalo Bore round in any of my K frame .357's.

We're going in the home of bears. Also are bears scare of canines in general?

Most bears in California are probably more scared of you than you are of them. Unless you come across one that is starving or you come between a sow and her cub(s), they'll likely give you a fairly wide berth. A good, large dog can often make them head in another direction.