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  • CBRKURT
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    • Aug 2010
    • 855

    Question About Open Carry

    So I know it's legal to open carry without a magazine in the weapon. (although you'll probably get arrested for it). However my question is When you get back in your vehicle does the weapon and magazine need to be stowed away or can you continue to wear the weapon while in the car? Does that lean toward a concealed firearm??
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    iron330
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    • May 2011
    • 415

    Best to store your weapon in the car per state laws. That won't change just because you've decided to open carry.

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    • #3
      mugiwara
      Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 236

      why do u think u would get arrested for open carrying legally?

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      • #4
        CBRKURT
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 855

        Originally posted by mugiwara
        why do u think u would get arrested for open carrying legally?
        Most police do not know it's legal to open carry in this state. I have heard that people have been detained and paid a lot in legal fees fighting the arrest.
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        • #5
          infernl
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 892

          Originally posted by mugiwara
          why do u think u would get arrested for open carrying legally?
          +1 - same question?
          As long as you're clear of the boundaries of areas that are no-fly for open carry (schools, courthouses, etc.) you are GTG by law.
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          • #6
            Decoligny
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 10615

            Originally posted by iron330
            Best to store your weapon in the car per state laws. That won't change just because you've decided to open carry.

            http://californiaopencarry.org/
            What exactly is "per state laws"?

            There is no requirement for you to lock up an exposed unloaded firearm unless you are within 1,000 feet of K-12 school property.

            I think what iron330 meant to say was, if you lock the handgun in a fully enclosed secure container, unloaded, then you will be in compliance with the law should you inadvertantly drive into an area where your handgun is required to be locked up.

            If you are open carrying an unloaded handgun, you can have an empty magazine in the magazine well and be perfectly legal. You can have the full magazines readily available in a magazine holder on your belt and still be perfectly legal.

            If you know 1000% for sure that the route you will be driving from where you are open carrying, all the way to your destination, has NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, K-12 schools within 1,000 feet of the road you are driving on, then, and only then would you be OK to drive with your unloaded handgun openly carried. Openly carried is not limited to being in the holster. You could legally have the unloaded hangun on the passenger seat, or even on the dashboard. It does however invite scrutiny if a passing LEO sees a gun on your dash.
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              Decoligny
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              • Mar 2008
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              Originally posted by CBRKURT
              Most police do not know it's legal to open carry in this state. I have heard that people have been detained and paid a lot in legal fees fighting the arrest.
              That may have been true several years ago, but the Open Carry movement has brought the legality of UOC to the attention of most if not all LEOs in CA.

              There is even a new law being run through the legislature to make Unloaded Open Carry illegal. So, Open Carry is not a secret in the LEO community.
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              • #8
                CBRKURT
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 855

                Thank you everyone for the wealth of info you have provided to me. I am in the process of studying the open carry website now.
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                • #9
                  iron330
                  Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 415

                  Am I missing something? Or is there another section of the code that speaks to carrying a handgun in a vehicle?

                  California Penal Code Section 12026.1

                  (a) Section 12025 shall not be construed to prohibit any
                  citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or
                  is temporarily within this state, and who is not prohibited by state
                  or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a
                  firearm, from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other
                  firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, provided that
                  the following applies to the firearm:
                  (1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the
                  vehicle's trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle other than
                  the utility or glove compartment.
                  (2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any
                  motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm,
                  the firearm is contained within a locked container.
                  (b) The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit the
                  otherwise lawful carrying or transportation of any pistol, revolver,
                  or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in
                  accordance with this chapter.
                  (c) As used in this section, "locked container" means a secure
                  container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock,
                  combination lock, or similar locking device.

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                  • #10
                    KandyRedCoi
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1748

                    other than k-12 schools what other places require the 1000ft rule?
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                    • #11
                      Decoligny
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 10615

                      Originally posted by iron330
                      Am I missing something? Or is there another section of the code that speaks to carrying a handgun in a vehicle?
                      This section does not cover "carrying a handgun in a vehicle".

                      This section covers carrying a "concealed handgun in a vehicle".

                      PC 12026.1 and PC 12026.2 deal specifically with exceptions to PC 12025, the law that makes carrying a concealed handgun illegal.

                      As I stated in my previous post, there is no law that requires an exposed handgun to be locked up. PC 626.9 makes it illegal to have an exposed handgun within 1,000 feet of K-12 school property.
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                      • #12
                        Decoligny
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 10615

                        Originally posted by KandyRedCoi
                        other than k-12 schools what other places require the 1000ft rule?
                        None
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                        • #13
                          Spetsnazos
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                          • Feb 2011
                          • 1470

                          I thought they banned open carry for handguns a month back?
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                          • #14
                            KandyRedCoi
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 1748

                            Originally posted by Decoligny
                            None
                            ok last question: how do you know the 1000ft distance of schools your route is on? is it a 1000ft radius around the school? ok thanks
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                            • #15
                              Army
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3915

                              Originally posted by KandyRedCoi
                              ok last question: how do you know the 1000ft distance of schools your route is on? is it a 1000ft radius around the school? ok thanks
                              The 1000' starts at the edge of the school property, all the way around.

                              You can Google Earth it to get near exact measurement. My house is less than 100' from the nearest GFSZ, but my normal travel route keeps me out of it by 1/2 the street width

                              In case the OP is wondering; California does not require locking up a long arm or ammuniton during transport through a 1000' zone. However, federal law does require locking or securing longarms in GFSZ's, but also has no requirements for ammuniton.
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