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  • tacticalcity
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Aug 2006
    • 10929

    Single Shot Exemption SP89K Cone...Is it Possible?

    I recently read a guy on Calguns say that you could not import the SP89K clones under the single shot exemption because the barrel was not long enough??? Then another guy instantly replied that this was FUD. It did not get cleared up in that thread and it seemed like none of the parties knew what the heck they were talking about.

    Is it true that it can't be done? If so how are people doing the Mac-10 and Mini-Uzi that are much shorter?

    I'm looking for replies from actual experts rather than just people who "think" they know. Guy's who can cite the actual law and provide it here. Thanks much.

    Also, does anybody know of a Maglock for these that doesn't suck? The Raddlock is rather difficult to install and the Prince50 solution that I used on a G3 completely locked the magazine into place and was a lock not a bullet button. I need something the seller can install with ease and won't gripe about doing.

    I'll make the single shot sled myself by completely blocking off a 10-rd magazine and send it to the seller before he ships it.

    Here is an example picture of the gun in question...

    Last edited by tacticalcity; 06-28-2011, 10:27 PM.
  • #2
    nick562
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 154

    I want one

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    • #3
      tacticalcity
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Aug 2006
      • 10929

      My thoughts exactly!

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      • #4
        redcliff
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2008
        • 5676

        You're dealing with a couple issues on these. 1. the Roster 2. California Assault weapon law.

        First, the roster: original SP89's have 5.7" barrels and you need 6" plus to single shot exempt one. So you need a sub-caliber barrel insert like Valkyrie is doing on the P7's or you need a SP89 clone with a mp5k 3 lug barrel with a 3 lug flash hider permanently attached.

        Second, for AW compliance you could have the pistol shipped with the lower seperated from the upper which is the serial numberred portion. No constructive AW's in California so it would seem to not be illegal while disassembled, and HK sp89's are not listed firearms nor are their clones.

        It would appear theoretically possible to have an unassembled clone shipped to someone like Valkyrie Arms, have a mag lock installed prior to assembly and have the barrel modified in one of the above fashions in order to single-shot it.
        Last edited by redcliff; 06-28-2011, 7:13 PM.
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        • #5
          tacticalcity
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Aug 2006
          • 10929

          By sub-caliber barrel insert you mean a drop in 22lr conversion kit? That would be interesting.
          Last edited by tacticalcity; 06-28-2011, 6:52 PM.

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          • #6
            redcliff
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2008
            • 5676

            You'd need to discuss it with Valkyrie Arms, and see what they're doing on the P7 and see if they could apply that to the SP89 clone.

            I'm not sure if they're using the sub-caliber insert on the P7 to convert to .22lr or more likely they're just converting it down to a smaller center fire calibre where the new barrel fits inside the original barrel and chamber.

            There was a thread recently on single shotting the P7, might give you more info.
            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
            "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
            "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

            "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
            although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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            • #7
              Turbinator
              Administrator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 11957

              SP89, FYI...

              Turby

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              • #8
                tacticalcity
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Aug 2006
                • 10929

                Hate it when those numbers and letters get mixed up.

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