single shot exempt on a kahr cm9?????

[tacgunner530]

hello all. i'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a ccw pistol and was wondering if any of you have got your hands on a kahr cm9? seeing as how they are not on the roster, who did you go through to obtain this little gem?

my first choice for ccw was the ruger lcp, then decided that 9mm would be the better caliber. the kahr pm9 caught my eye because of its diminutive size and larger round, the only downside...the price! then i see the cm9, basically the same gun, save for different barrel rifling and logo for a couple hundred bucks less! so if any of you have any feedback on the cm9 i'd love to hear from you.

this whole roster thing is freaking ridiculous!

[NapaCountyShooter]

Have you looked at the Ruger lc9? 9mm, still small, rostered, and pretty cheap.

[bwiese]

1. Some depts will not issue CCWs for nonRostered guns. (Will
be interesting to see if they'd pull a CCW for a gun falling off the
Roster.) So that could be a problem for you, perhaps.


2. Availability may be determined by popularity vs. cost of a spare
barrel that needs to get extended so the gun can be "single-shotted"
for 12133PC Roster exemption.

[Noah3683]

I agree look into an LC9 the Kahr isn't real common so you may have a real hard time finding it in single shot form. Also PPT will probably be pretty expensive because the price for a non roster gun is usually substantially higher.

[tacgunner530]

thanks guys, i hadn't thought of ccw denial because of a non roster gun. i'll have to look into that. regarding the lc9, i thought of that one too, it just looked a little bigger to me. but the price/availability makes it a more attractive option. decisions, decisions!

[stangman86gt]

it looks bigger because it is, by about a half inch in height and length.

[puropuro]

I compared both the LC9 and the PM9 side by side....and I personally chose the PM9.

Although both utilize a long trigger pull to aid in safety, the Ruger's trigger is a mile longer than the Kahrs and didn't seem to break as cleanly for me.
The Kahr's trigger is long, but VERY SMOOTH with a crisp break. The PM9 is also smaller and easier to carry in the pocket if that is one of your considerations. There is also no need to deal with the manual safety that the Ruger uses.

Once I got through break-in, and a quick sanding of the magazine followers to aid feeding, it's now 100% reliable per the 300 rounds I went through this past weekend (with zero failures on the 6-round mag).

I'd guess the money you might save on the CM9 vs the PM9 might be nullified if you need to go through the extra effort and expense of doing a single-shot exemption....but I could be wrong. What's that saying about "pay now, cry once....blah blah blah"
For me, it was worth it over the other California options.

[aatruong]

+1 on the pm9. Mine is over 2 years old and has passed the requisite 200 round breakin (or thereabout) and it has been flawless. With a nemesis, you won't notice it at all. I believe kahr added the cm9 as a way to bring down the price point of the pm line...now, to bring it in as a single shot may make this moot. I'd like to know more about ccw'ing an offlisted piece myself. Good luck with your search.

[tacgunner530]

thanks for the input! so i just got back from visiting a few local shops and one has a pm9 in stock, for $719.00. that price is steep, but puropuro, i think you're right, buy once, cry once. plus i'm just envisioning the hassle of trying to single shot a cm9, cost+time=not worth it. just might have to head back there today and get it.

[puropuro]

thanks for the input! so i just got back from visiting a few local shops and one has a pm9 in stock, for $719.00. that price is steep, but puropuro, i think you're right, buy once, cry once. plus i'm just envisioning the hassle of trying to single shot a cm9, cost+time=not worth it. just might have to head back there today and get it.

Here, just to nudge you over the edge....

[tacgunner530]

Here, just to nudge you over the edge....

sweet!!! thanks for the nudge, i actually bought the freakin thing! paid half today to hold for me, going in tomorrow to pass my hsc test, pay the other half, and start dros. i cant wait to have this little gem in my firearm family.

[puropuro]

Cool! Congratulations.
You may also take a peek over at kahrtalk.com and read up a bit on some of the tips and tricks, especially some of the break-in guidance. You'll absolutely love the size, trigger, and accuracy of the PM9....just make sure you work out any kinks before you carry.

[tacgunner530]

nice, thanks for the recommendation. i'll have to check them out.

[brianm767]

The CM9's price plus the single shot markup would put right at the price you can find a nice used PM9 for, As for CCW denial, it all depends upon your issuing authority policies, here in Fresno , there's no requirement for a gun to be on the roster, so a CM9 is no problem.

This is just guessing
New CM9 $429.00
Sales tax 37.53
DROS 25.00
Single shot 75.00 maybe $50, maybe $100 ??

CM9 =$566.53 one mag
Lots of PM9's come up for around $525-$550 so add $35 PPT your at $560-$585 and PM series guns come with two mags and buying used, often there are extra mags.