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Having a choice (but at no cost) would You go with full size USP 45 DA/SA OR LEM?
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Depends much upon how you intend to use the USP and your preference. Given the USP, I would definitely go with LEM; I don't like handguns with safeties (unless decock only is one of the 7 or so variants -- I forget).
Even still, for a defensive handgun, I prefer LEM. I actually really like the HK LEM trigger -- I think it's a great system. On top of that, the HK DA pull is a little heavy for me.
My Sigs, on the other hand, are all DA/SA.
I wouldn't mind either but the V1 safety would push me to the LEM. -
I have the P2000 LEM...I'm with Konata.....it's a great CCW trigger since there are no safeties to fumble with and when you let off the trigger, it goes back to the light double action mode so less chance of an ND....3 day waiting period???? but I'm mad now!!!!!!Comment
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Being a wheel gun and auto pistol guy both I noted that there was always an adjustment period returning to autos after heavy wheel gun use. Why?
Wheel guns are mostly DA, that is every shot is DA unless you manual chose to go SA, so the action is DA/DA, which is very much like the LEM. I don't have a LEM mod gun but honestly I think it would make transition easier between wheel guns and autos....but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.Comment
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The feel is different but I would say operationally they are similar. Also, I think Glocks have a shorter initial pull and reset. But I would be fine with the LEM.
If you want to play it safe, I'm almost positive that a USP V1 can be converted to the LEM and I'm pretty sure that LEM can be converted to V1 (but you should double check).
Coming from a Glock, I'd say get the LEM.Comment
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DA/SA and only shoot it in SA. Its the beauty of having both a decocker and safety.Comment
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My HK usp 40 with the LEM is the best shooting 40 I own...
I've carried a glock on duty for years.. and owned them for 20 years...
the HK is more accurate and more controllable... it is heavier mind you..
and I love the mag release...
the LEM trigger is about 1.5 lbs heavier in weight than the glock but "feels" crisper and is not a problem in execution of proper trigger control...
likes it alot.. +1 for the LEM...
should I buy another HK.. it would probably be another LEMGreebo, as a matter of feline pride, would attempt to fight or rape absolutely anything, up to and including a four-horse logging wagon. Ferocious dogs would whine and hide under the stairs when Greebo sauntered down the street. Foxes Kept away from the village. Wolves made a detour. Terry PratchettComment
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Definitely LEM. Having a safety and decock on a defensive weapon isn't a good idea unless you train extensively with it.Comment
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Ya having an external safety for around a 100 years was clearly wrong
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The LEM is great because it basically pre cocks the hammer so your getting a 12 lb hammer spring hitting a primer which decreases the possibility of a light primer strike. Yet depending on the LEM variant you have weather it be the heavy 7-8lb or light 4-5lb LEM trigger pull and a double strike capability though it will be a 12lb double strike unless you tap rack bang. The only Variant you can't convert to LEM is Variant 3 or the one with the decocker on the back of the frame. LEM is one of the most misunderstood trigger systems and like most things HK very innovative like being the first polymer gun made ect.Comment
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+1 for the LEM.
My HK came with light LEM and I enjoy it very much. The great thing about HK is the ability to change the Variants to suit your needs.
Being accustomed to a 1911, I ended up adding the safety (no decocker). However, the safety on the HK doesn't feel as natural as on a 1911. I'll keep practicing with it, but may end up removing the safety at some point.Comment
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I have a USPc light LEM and a P30 DA/SA. I definitely prefer the light LEM for a carry gun. For a HD/nightstand gun I think DA/SA is a good choice.Originally posted by tuna quesadillaComment
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No. You CAN convert V3 to LEM. It's been done by at least a few members of HKPro.
Last edited by SixtyDashOne; 06-16-2011, 4:54 PM.Originally posted by tuna quesadillaComment
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