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  • #16
    VegasND
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2007
    • 8621

    You are a great son to buy such gifts for your dad!
    I wish you'd post the name of the FFL.
    Originally posted by nickyrr
    Just in case u guys are wondering... I got him a ps90.. and an xdm 3.8 in 9mm. Also got him 5 extra 30 round mag for the ps90 and a total of 10 extra 19 round mag for the xdm... also I have other siblings that help pay for all these. And its my dads wish for f days and b day...
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    • #17
      nagorb
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 4355

      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
      Again, I'm not sure why you think it's going to be in anyone's name? Can you elaborate? Or, is this just a term you keep hearing on TV and think that all firearms get "registered" when they are sold? That simply is not so.
      Who stuck a stick up your ***? Where is he saying he thinks it was/will be registered or are you just assuming? How do you think the FFL will know who the gun is for? Probably because it comes in with a name on it

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      • #18
        Ksmash01
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1308

        The receiving ffl may have been both under the impression that the firearms were for the son(thinking the son can't get these cause he's from CA ) and totally unaware that things like bullet buttons and blocked mags/mag kits are legal in CA.

        On top of that, they were thinking straw purchase, even after it was explained to them that it was a gift.

        I figure if you wanted a ps90 and an xdm3.8, you could get them and ship them to the ffl of your choice, provided they were converted to a CA legal status before they were transferred to you. Dense ffl's don't deserve other peoples business unless they correct their issue and demonstrate that to the public. You should out them.
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        • #19
          glock_this
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2005
          • 8225

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          First of all, out the FLL
          is this some new acronym I'am not aware of
          10 +1 in the chamber

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          • #20
            nickyrr
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 443

            The ffl is in NV and I don't want to bad mouth their store... unless this whole thong don't get resolve with all sides both happy. Ill give em the benefit of the doubt and see if they can fix this. I figure we all got to stick together against the common enemy... and not against each other... both owner and retailers.

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            • #21
              raycm2
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 150

              Can I adopt you?
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              • #22
                JagerDog
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                • May 2011
                • 13130

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                • #23
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 11036

                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                  .... Finally, it is NOT ILLEGAL for you to purchase a firearm and give it to your father. It is not illegal for your father to give you a firearm. When crossing state lines, you'll need to go through a FFL but, there is no law preventing you from paying for the guns and having them shipped to your father's FFL.

                  So, as long as you paid for your father's father's day presents, they were shipped to his FFL, He filled out his 4473s and picked them up, everthing seems legal. At some later date, your father can always regift said guns to you as long as you go through a FFL here and the guns are CA legal.
                  This is all dead-on accurate.
                  -----------------------------------------------
                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #24
                    aghauler
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 4794

                    Originally posted by nickyrr
                    Yes... the ffl is in NV.
                    nickrr
                    Is the FFL in northern Nevada? If so I can give you a FFL that handles my C&R transfers. He's a CA resident but his business is in NV. PM me if you'd prefer. Bob B.

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                    • #25
                      r3dn3ck
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1900

                      4473 says "are you the actual purchaser of this firearm" or something generally like that, if he signed the 4473, he bought it. Doesn't matter a bloody damn who actually paid for it. You could find a homeless guy on the street and if he's otherwise legal you could pay for him to own a gun as long as it's registered to him. In the case of long arms which may not be literally registered, substitute transferred.

                      I can't believe the FUD that some shops spread.

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                      • #26
                        CSACANNONEER
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44091

                        Originally posted by nagorb
                        Who stuck a stick up your ***? Where is he saying he thinks it was/will be registered or are you just assuming? How do you think the FFL will know who the gun is for? Probably because it comes in with a name on it
                        A little reading comprehension 101 might be in order.

                        Originally posted by nickyrr
                        Ok so I am a CA resident. My dad who lives in NV got a present from me... a handgun and a carbine both of which are legal in the state of NV. I was the one that purchased the rifle and the handgun using my credit card but I told the on-line store that the items will be in my dads name because he will be the registered owner of the guns. Now the ffl where the gun was shipped is saying we or I broke the law.
                        Did I? Is there anyone that can elaborate on the law? My dad is both able and willing to take the guns... as I read correctly as long as the person receiving the item is not in legal trouble and the gun is legal within that state were ok... all of which I checked prior to buying
                        Again, unless it's a handgun in Clarke County, I'm not aware of any "registration" in the state of NV. So, your lucky father won't be the "registered owner" of anything.
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                        • #27
                          aghauler
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 4794

                          Originally posted by r3dn3ck
                          4473 says "are you the actual purchaser of this firearm" or something generally like that, if he signed the 4473, he bought it. Doesn't matter a bloody damn who actually paid for it. You could find a homeless guy on the street and if he's otherwise legal you could pay for him to own a gun as long as it's registered to him. In the case of long arms which may not be literally registered, substitute transferred.

                          I can't believe the FUD that some shops spread.
                          Only a guess but if he only ordered it and had it shipped to a NV FFL he probably hasn't done the 4473 yet as it didn't come to him in CA. Don't have to do a 4473 to order a firearm as far as I know. BB

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                          • #28
                            bombadillo
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 14810

                            You're good to go.

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