S&W MP40 first impressions

[Iggy]

I took my new M&P40 sat to the range and put 250 round through it. It had absolutely no problems and so far I really like it, but it's no 1911.

My frist hand gun was a Kimber TLE II and it shoots awesome, I wanted to get a beater gun so the M&P was a good choice. The first thing I disliked out of the box was the trigger. I don't like the way it picks up or the creep. I ordered the APEX trigger kit to see if that fixes the problem.

Accuracy was a huge difference between the two. With my 1911 I can group about 1.5" at 7yards and with the M&P it was more like 3". It maybe that I just need more practice, but I will take better accuracy from a larger bullet any day.

The last thing is weight. Fro some reason the M&P feels heavier than the Kimber, not a big deal since I don't carry, but I was surprised.

I'm going to run another 200 rounds through it tomorrow, but so far I like it, but I'm not blown away. I'm going to save up for another 1911 with a rail.

[Mr.Villa81]

MP40 is a great gun, I also went to the range this pass weekend I shot about 400 round, without any problems.

[NorCal Einstein]

Someone is going to jump down my throat for saying this, but I found that the Apex RAM alone, made a noticeable difference in trigger reset since that was one thing I found the M&P line lacked.

https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid44.html

Most people will say you need to install the Apex USB and/or Hard Sear in combination with the RAM to improve the reset, which is why I say someone is going to get on my case about this post.

[Iggy]

Yeah, I'm waiting on this:

https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid54.html

It looks like it doesn't include the ram.

I guess my grip just has to do with practice, but it seems like when I shoot my 1911 I put the pad of my index right in the middle. On the M&P if I put my finger in the same spot, it's on the pivot, so if I don't pull back correctly it hangs on the little tab behind the trigger.

[barca101]

I agree with Einstein, I installed the RAM on my M&P9 and it feels great. the trigger reset is really pronounce. I too also found the one thing the pistol was lacking. I like the feel of the stock trigger. I know it's no Glock, but I did not buy a Glock.

[Shenaniguns]

Someone is going to jump down my throat for saying this, but I found that the Apex RAM alone, made a noticeable difference in trigger reset since that was one thing I found the M&P line lacked.

https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid44.html

Most people will say you need to install the Apex USB and/or Hard Sear in combination with the RAM to improve the reset, which is why I say someone is going to get on my case about this post.

If you post accurate information then you won't get corrected


Apex's sear improves the break, overtravel and shortens the reset distance while lowering the break to about 4-4.5 pounds
Their USB improves the smoothness of the pull
The Duty Return Spring puts the weight back up into the 5 pound region
The RAM helps with the tactile reset

[hollowpoint67]

I took my new M&P40 sat to the range and put 250 round through it. It had absolutely no problems and so far I really like it, but it's no 1911.

My frist hand gun was a Kimber TLE II and it shoots awesome, I wanted to get a beater gun so the M&P was a good choice. The first thing I disliked out of the box was the trigger. I don't like the way it picks up or the creep. I ordered the APEX trigger kit to see if that fixes the problem.

Accuracy was a huge difference between the two. With my 1911 I can group about 1.5" at 7yards and with the M&P it was more like 3". It maybe that I just need more practice, but I will take better accuracy from a larger bullet any day.

The last thing is weight. Fro some reason the M&P feels heavier than the Kimber, not a big deal since I don't carry, but I was surprised.

I'm going to run another 200 rounds through it tomorrow, but so far I like it, but I'm not blown away. I'm going to save up for another 1911 with a rail.

I have to agree with you, in order for a weapon system to make it into my safe i put it through a couple of tests.

Both my 1911 and Browning Hi Power survived the Microwave test.

my M&P though ended up melting partially when only put up against the simple "Popcorn" setting.

so it is not a good weapon system for SHTF IMHO

[Shenaniguns]

I have to agree with you, in order for a weapon system to make it into my safe i put it through a couple of tests.

Both my 1911 and Browning Hi Power survived the Microwave test.

my M&P though ended up melting partially when only put up against the simple "Popcorn" setting.

so it is not a good weapon system for SHTF IMHO

Sweet trolling

[Juicymeat]

Not so much trolling as it is somewhat true. My buddy left his M&P in his truck over a weekend and it had to be sent back to S&W for a frame replacement since it was warped around the magwell area and mags couldn't be inserted/extracted without some force.

[Shenaniguns]

I have an extremely difficult time believing that.

And the microwave thing is stupid as metal in a microwave produces disastrous results.

[Iggy]

Both my M&P and 1911 survived the microwave test. They both shot it and it didn't fire back.

[hollowpoint67]

Sweet trolling

accusing me of trolling is shenaniguns.

try it and tell me how it turns out.

[Shenaniguns]

accusing me of trolling is shenaniguns.

try it and tell me how it turns out.

Were you trying to be clever? Try again and maybe get some help from a smarter friend.

[c3 rolling]

Not so much trolling as it is somewhat true. My buddy left his M&P in his truck over a weekend and it had to be sent back to S&W for a frame replacement since it was warped around the magwell area and mags couldn't be inserted/extracted without some force.

If my beater Civic dashboard doesn't warp then a polymer frame wont. +1 on the "microwave" test being just plain stupid.

[NorCal Einstein]

If you post accurate information then you won't get corrected


Apex's sear improves the break, overtravel and shortens the reset distance while lowering the break to about 4-4.5 pounds
Their USB improves the smoothness of the pull
The Duty Return Spring puts the weight back up into the 5 pound region
The RAM helps with the tactile reset

Hey, someone's done it to me in the past. I say the RAM helps with getting a more distinct "click" on the reset, and someone came in and went all hoo haa saying you need to throw in every part Apex makes to improve trigger reset. Maybe this was on MP Pistol.....