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  • joostin4
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 125

    First time cleaning pistol. Did I do something wrong?

    Thanks to the directions and advice of fellow calgunners, I cleaned my pistol for the first time after a trip to the range. Something seemed off after I cleaned it though, and would like some advice on what I did wrong.

    The calgunner I bought my Sig P226 from seemed to have cleaned the gun before he gave it to me. It was virtually spotless and well oiled/greased so I decided not to clean it before shooting. I put about 300 rounds of Remington and Winchester white box FMJ through the gun with no problems. It fed everything well and the action was smooth as butter.

    Afterwards I took it home, and the gun was pretty filthy. The powder residue was caked all over the inside. I disassembled the gun and wiped everything down dry first with some cotton patches.

    Then I took a nylon gun "toothbrush" and dipped it in Hoppes 9. I went over the barrel, insides of the slide, insides of the frame, and slide rails with the Hoppes 9 covered toothbrush. Once the parts no longer had any powder residue, I set all the components aside to dry completely. Once dry, I put a layer or two of rem-oil on the barrel, inside of the slide (especially the parts that contact the barrel), inside of the frame (that contact the barrel), and slide rails. I made sure to put two or three coats of rem-oil on the slide rail. I would have used slide glide but I couldn't find any stores that carry it.

    Once nice and lubricated, I racked the slide a couple of times. The action was smooth and the oil ran a little bit down the frame so I wiped it off. I stored the gun away.

    NOW, I just opened the Sig box so I can take a look at it. The first thing I noticed, there were discolored and slightly moist oil spots on the side of the slide and near the ejection port. I'm assuming this discoloration will go away when the oil dries up. However, the part that doesn't sit well with me: The action isn't nearly butter smooth as it was when I first purchased the gun. the slide looks noticeably drier than when first purchased also. A lot of the oil seems to have dried up. It's to the point that I wouldn't even shoot it without oiling the slide rails again. What gives?
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    Fishslayer
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2010
    • 13035

    The Rem oil is very thin and actually dries. It also has PTFE.

    Use a thicker oil or grease for the slide. I use a moly/graphite assembly lube on slides & CorrosionX or CLP everywhere else.

    Most of my semis need a wipedown when I take them out. I like to run 'em pretty wet.
    A lot of people are using straight synthetic motor oil.
    Last edited by Fishslayer; 05-31-2011, 10:04 PM.
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    • #3
      joostin4
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 125

      Originally posted by Fishslayer
      The Rem oil is very thin and actually dries. It also has PTFE.

      Use a thicker oil or grease for the slide. I use a moly/graphite assembly lube on slides & CorrosionX or CLP everywhere else.
      Yeah, the Remoil did seem pretty thin. But what's the point of an oil that dries? Could you explain what PTFE means?
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      • #4
        Dark Mod
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 4284

        Patching and swabbing it first was probably a bad idea. You want to use the brush first, loosen all the carbon and gunk and get off as much as you can, THEN patch and swab. You probably left quite a bit of that stuff behind after you brushed it. I clean after every range trip and im meticulous, most people only run a snake through the barrell but its been ingrained in me to have it inspection ready after firing.

        Theres a ton of nooks and crannies that the gunk will run down into making parts of the action gummy. Try to get in there with a cotton swab, but it shouldnt be a big deal.

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        • #5
          Fishslayer
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2010
          • 13035

          Originally posted by joostin4
          Yeah, the Remoil did seem pretty thin. But what's the point of an oil that dries? Could you explain what PTFE means?
          Not a lot of people really like the Rem oil.

          PTFE = Teflon.
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          You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
          You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


          Originally Posted by JackRydden224
          I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
          Originally posted by redcliff
          A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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          • #6
            drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2219

            For lubricating after cleaning, the advise I follow is use oil on surfaces which don't slide past each other; use grease on surfaces that do. I believe I found that on a SIG forum, posted by an armorer. Seems reasonable
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            • #7
              brownfeathermedic
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 490

              I,m pretty meticulous also about cleaning my Guns. I wet brush the parts with either shooters choice or Hoppe's #9,srub inside of barrel with either until clean patches come out and then Blow excess CLP from nooks and cranies,then lube slide rails with white lithium grease. And wha-La!

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              • #8
                loose_electron
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 784

                Go to Home Depot and get a tube of white grease (aka Lithium grease)
                Use that on the slide contact surfaces.

                Sounds like the gun is swimming in oil.
                Take it apart and wipe out all the excess oil,
                grease the slide and put it back together.

                The oil residue left post wiping it out should be enough.

                You should also be able to find You Tube videos on gun cleaning.
                A big box of Q-tips is useful to have.
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                • #9
                  Noah3683
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2256

                  Originally posted by Fishslayer
                  Not a lot of people really like the Rem oil.

                  PTFE = Teflon.
                  Yeah Rem oil blows. I use Mobil 1, or CLP for lube and tetra grease on any semi-auto pistol rails.
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                  • #10
                    S dot
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 235

                    I like to spray breakfree clp everywhere and let it sit for an hour or so then clean. Its a solid product as you can clean and lube with it. No offense, but rem oil just isnt as effective. Just ditch it.

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                    • #11
                      zfields
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 13658

                      Slip 2000 or slip EWL + hoppes gun grease = happy steel guns
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                      • #12
                        joostin4
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 125

                        Ok, I'm tossing out the Remoil. Gonna get myself a decent grease for the slide rails before the next range trip.

                        So, the good stuff:

                        Grease:

                        Slide Glide
                        Tetra Grease

                        Oil:

                        Mobil 1
                        CLP
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                        • #13
                          savasyn
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3201

                          You might want to ditch the Hoppes #9 as well. I used it for years and it does the job, but I've switched to M-Pro7 and have never looked back. It doesn't smell at all, my skin doesn't feel like it's been soaking on cancer-causing chemicals and it seems to clean better as well!

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                          • #14
                            zfields
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 13658

                            Originally posted by savasyn
                            You might want to ditch the Hoppes #9 as well. I used it for years and it does the job, but I've switched to M-Pro7 and have never looked back. It doesn't smell at all, my skin doesn't feel like it's been soaking on cancer-causing chemicals and it seems to clean better as well!
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                            • #15
                              savasyn
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3201

                              Originally posted by joostin4
                              Oil:
                              CLP
                              CLP isn't actually a great oil(lubricant) per say. It isn't really a great cleaner or protector either (which is CLP stands for). It was designed for military folks to have an all-in-one to use, and it does work, but when you can get separate items that specialize in each area, they'll be far better. I carry CLP with me in my bag for the occasion it's needed, but I don't use when I'm at home and I have other things at hand.

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