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  • les3547
    Junior Member
    • May 2011
    • 11

    Ruger LC9 Recommended

    For my first post I decided to do a thread on my experiences with the Ruger LC9 after seeing a review here that gave the Ruger a “C+” (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...php?t=409866); my purpose isn’t to disagree but rather to offer another perspective.

    A useful evaluation of a gun must take into account what one wants it for. For example, I’ve seen threads where people bash the Hi-Point brand as an utter junk, yet for someone who can’t afford more it has been a great buy (and possibly their only option). While I personally wouldn’t buy one, I understand why someone else would.

    A gun can be many things to its owner. Power, ability to conceal, dependability, beauty, mechanical brilliance, carry weight, accuracy, penile compensation (just kidding) . . . IOW, I don’t think one can grade a decent gun without including what one is judging its use for, and few would disagree that Ruger makes at least “decent” pistols.

    The LC9 has a spot, maybe not for everyone’s needs, but it “works” for the spot it occupies. It is affordable, it is concealable (here I dispute the earlier review that it is “too big for pocket carry”), and it offers the power of a 9mm hollow point.

    Let me describe my situation to explain why the LC9 works for me.

    I am a “reluctant” gun owner in that I do so only because of the rise in home invasions and gang violence. Although I live in a relatively safe area, I decided to prepare for the worst (but, of course, hope for the best). My first preparation was buying a Mossberg 930 SPX semi-auto shotgun. From what I read, I understood it might take time to get to the shotgun, so a more readily available weapon is a good idea.

    My thinking on a handgun was something concealable, affordable, and dependable. The LC9 seemed right and I bought it. As of now, I’ve put about 400 rounds through it (mostly Fiocci 124 grain JHP), with no glitches whatsoever. I concede, it is not easy to be accurate with it past 20 feet, but that is fine with me since I want it only for someone on top of me before I can get to a shotgun.

    We live on 20 acres, so I carry it easily in my back pocket when a stranger comes over, say to buy something from Craig’s List or to sell me on Comcast (we like Dish). They can’t see the Ruger in my pocket. I also take it to my car when I travel, it hides nicely in its little locked case next to my seat.

    Now I have decided a thorough home defense system will require at least three handguns placed at strategic locations, and therefore I am deciding what next to buy. I love CZ, Beretta, Kimber . . . but my lust for them is just that, lust. On a practical level, and on a restricted income, the LC9 seems the best choice. I can share magazines, and perfect my shooting technique by using only one gun.

    I will add, the LC9’s trigger loosens up after awhile to become buttery smooth; it can also be dry-fired without worry so one can both get the trigger smooth and practice getting used to the way works (BTW, I wrote Ruger to make sure one can dry fire it; they assured me there is no problem since quote “the firing pin in Ruger LC9-Series pistols is of the inertia type and dry firing should cause no damage to the firearm”). Last point, I don't understand any complaint about the safety features, even if one lives outside CA. I absolutely LOVE the loaded chamber indicator because I can instantly make sure (see or feel) that I've got one in the chamber (it is invisible while shooting), while the normal safety clicks on only with some effort, but off very easily. I included some pictures to show how concealable it is.

    Front pocket, without any pocket holster:




    With a bit of twist in my torso, you can see a bulge from the LC9:




    Back pocket, using a Blackhawk size 4 pocket holster (http://www.opticsplanet.net/blackhaw...er-40pp.html):




    Back pocket, shirt down:




    With a “stealth holster” (a neat product, but too expensive IMO http://www.stealthholster.com/node/11). It is “neat” because you can use it with either hand, in the back (my preference), or for cross draw, and it holds mags:




    The Stealth Holster exposed:

    Last edited by les3547; 05-27-2011, 8:45 AM.
  • #2
    Webologist
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 650

    Les,

    Great review. Thanks.

    Regards,
    -w
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    • #3
      Tiberius
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1160

      Thanks for posting that. I've been flirting with LC9s, and just finally saw one in a gun shop a couple days ago. I don't mind a thumb safety, but I was little puzzled by the LC9's - to me it seemed both stiff and awkwardly placed. I only held the gun for a little bit so maybe I got it wrong, but it seemed to me to be tricky to draw and sweep the safety off.

      From your review it seems like, at least for you, the safety can be swept off easily. Could you explain more about how easily flicked off the safety is? I almost felt like I'd need another hand to do it, but I want to go back and try the gun again.

      T

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      • #4
        les3547
        Junior Member
        • May 2011
        • 11

        Originally posted by Tiberius
        Thanks for posting that. I've been flirting with LC9s, and just finally saw one in a gun shop a couple days ago. I don't mind a thumb safety, but I was little puzzled by the LC9's - to me it seemed both stiff and awkwardly placed. I only held the gun for a little bit so maybe I got it wrong, but it seemed to me to be tricky to draw and sweep the safety off.

        From your review it seems like, at least for you, the safety can be swept off easily. Could you explain more about how easily flicked off the safety is? I almost felt like I'd need another hand to do it, but I want to go back and try the gun again.

        T
        I am sure you know that "body memory" can be developed. It's how athletes train themselves to react to common situations in sports. Similarly, I practiced a couple hundred grabs of the LC9 from my pocket with my thumb in the right location to flick off the safety. However, it didn't take nearly all those draws to develop that kind of body memory. My hands are slightly on the large size, but I have no trouble getting my thumb on the safety . . . to me, it seems exactly in the right spot to flick it off without looking (and of course, one doesn't have to use the safety).

        Possibly my lack of experience with small pistols is why it is so easy for me? I can see if someone were used to a safety situated a different way that they might find it strange, but I took to it easily. I decided not to fight it and completely accept how the LC9 works, and then learn to be effective with it as designed. I did benefit from putting the small Pachmayr slip-on grip on it, as the last picture shows (secured with a little rubber cement). I have been impressed with how sturdy the LC9 seems, and how it shoots without fail.
        Last edited by les3547; 05-26-2011, 11:53 PM.

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        • #5
          Toast
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 841

          Nice review, I've been thinking about getting an LC9 as my future carry gun for when I move. I'm glad to see you like it. It's funny though, I always hear people say that it's huge... I checked out a PF9 the other day (same dimensions) and it was tiny! I guess everyone thinks its huge because it's supposed to be LCP-like.

          How do you like the trigger btw?

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          • #6
            Tiberius
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1160

            Well that's a problem - a local store has a couple, and I can feel $400 just trying to fly out of my pocket now . . . .

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            • #7
              Omil
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 2130

              OP, very good review. Thanks.
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              • #8
                Tiberius
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 1160

                Slightly off topic, does anyone know why Ruger went with DAO? I know it approximates a self defense revolver and maybe that's the answer - but the LC9 is a nice flat semi-auto.

                I much prefer DA/SA, and I'm half tempted to wait and see if an LC9 variant like that comes out. Is there something technological that makes DA/SA harder to fit in a small gun? Seems unlikely - many small guns like the Bersa Thunder and I think some Berettas are DA/SA. Maybe its just the idea that DAO is better in a small SD gun?

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                • #9
                  762.DEFENSE
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 6314

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                  • #10
                    les3547
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 11

                    Originally posted by Tiberius
                    Slightly off topic, does anyone know why Ruger went with DAO? I know it approximates a self defense revolver and maybe that's the answer - but the LC9 is a nice flat semi-auto.

                    I much prefer DA/SA, and I'm half tempted to wait and see if an LC9 variant like that comes out. Is there something technological that makes DA/SA harder to fit in a small gun? Seems unlikely - many small guns like the Bersa Thunder and I think some Berettas are DA/SA. Maybe its just the idea that DAO is better in a small SD gun?
                    I don't know the answer to your question, but I feel exactly the same way (which is why for my next guns I have looked carefully at the CZ and Beretta models). It doesn't seem like Ruger is going to give us that in a compact or smaller. On the up side, less stuff on the sides (like a decocker) makes the gun slimmer and less likely to snag on anything being pulled out of the pocket.

                    I saw this posted elsewhere, but I thought it high praise that Hickok45 liked the LC9 so much. As someone who really loves guns and to shoot, I don't think he'd call it a winner if it weren't to him (not like his somewhat faint praise for the Ruger SR9c:

                    Last edited by les3547; 05-27-2011, 8:48 AM.

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                    • #11
                      les3547
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 11

                      Originally posted by Toast
                      Nice review, I've been thinking about getting an LC9 as my future carry gun for when I move. I'm glad to see you like it. It's funny though, I always hear people say that it's huge... I checked out a PF9 the other day (same dimensions) and it was tiny! I guess everyone thinks its huge because it's supposed to be LCP-like.
                      I admit I thought it was going to be smaller when I bought it (it turned out to be cheaper to order it from Buds instead of buying locally, so I hadn't tried its fit to my hand). As you guessed, I was thinking it similar to an LCP, so my first reaction was some disappointment, but now I am happy it is a little bigger. The 9mm round can use the extra few ounces (over the LCP), and even as it is the LC9 is snappy . . . you have to keep a tight grip on it. But I have grown used to that and practice shooting with it mind, and as I mentioned above, the Pachmayr grip really helps. Still, I am a lousy shot at 30 feet, but at 20 feet I at least hit a 12 inch target with all shots.

                      Now I love the gun, its slimness and weight make it easy to handle and conceal; here it is in the Blackhawk pocket holster:




                      Originally posted by Toast
                      How do you like the trigger btw?
                      The trigger has taken time to get used to, but I was inspired by Hickok45's review to practice since he liked the trigger. After a few hundred pulls the trigger got noticeably smoother and easier to pull so that now I'd call it buttery smooth, very nice.

                      Something I am learning is exactly what the travel distance is of the trigger. As I mentioned an earlier post, "body memory" will kick in at some point and will come to know how far to let the trigger out when repeatedly pulling the trigger. From that and practicing drawing it from my pocket I've learned how far I can depress the trigger without the gun firing, a dangerous thing to do of course, but good to know in a life threatening situation. At this half-depressed point, all it takes is a little pressure to fire. It's because I am getting so used the "ways" of the LC9 that I am thinking my next two guns will be LC9 as well so that if I have to use any of them where I will have them hidden, my body will be accustomed to the one gun.

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                      • #12
                        mif_slim
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 10089

                        LC9 9mm snappy? .....

                        Anyways, good review!
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                        • #13
                          Tiberius
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1160

                          Well I hope you're wrong and that a SA/DA does show up - but who knows. As for buying a couple more LC9s, if it were me I'd keep it to one and for the other house or self-defense guns look to a more full-sized weapon. I shoot these much better at slightly longer ranges, and probably at shorter ranges too, and in a high-stress situation that's good. I'm not sure what would approximate the LCP - maybe even an SR9, as the safety on those looks similar. Or a revolver, which might have a long trigger. There are variants of Berettas and HKs and others, probably, that are DAO too.

                          I use a Bersa Thunder 380 for CCW; I bought it just before the LC9 made the roster and probably would have bought the LC9 instead if it were available. The 380 is an odd round; according to the internet experts it's either just about a 9mm in real effects, or it's just a puff air that will do no more than slightly dry an attacker's wet hair, assuming that the attacker just took a shower. But I like the Bersa and it's similar in operation to my full-size home gun.

                          Thanks again for the excellent review and pics.

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                          • #14
                            Toolbox X
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 2602

                            Why in the world did they put a safety on that thing? Are they trying to purposely make it hard to get the gun into a fire-able condition when someone is under a gigantic stress situation? Anything that prevents a gun from going bang when you desperately need it to go bang is just dangerous. Ruger is aware the LC9 is a CCW piece, right?

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                            • #15
                              ZombieTactics
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                              • Jan 2010
                              • 3691

                              Originally posted by Toolbox X
                              Why in the world did they put a safety on that thing? Are they trying to purposely make it hard to get the gun into a fire-able condition when someone is under a gigantic stress situation? Anything that prevents a gun from going bang when you desperately need it to go bang is just dangerous. Ruger is aware the LC9 is a CCW piece, right?
                              The safety is there as a part of making it roster-able. This is a good thing, as it means that CA residents have access to a high-quality, low price CCW piece without going through a bunch of single-shot or PPT hassles to get one.

                              The safety is designed so that it is easy to disengage, but much more difficult to engage. It's almost a necessity to use 2 thumbs. As such, you can reliably carry it disengaged without worry that it would accidentally engage and foul you up when it counts.
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