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  • Bruce
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2183

    Exposed Hammer

    I think this BS myself. In my 40 years of shooting, I've never heard of, seen, or read of anything like what he describes in this video.

  • #2
    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 23002

    In 100 years of the 1911 being in service I haven't seen any reports of the exposed hammer being a problem except for the guys with big hands getting "hammer bite".
    Frank

    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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    • #3
      gorenut
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 3072

      What he stated in the video CAN happen. Chances of it happening is probably extremely slim. He didn't make any claims of which firearm platform was clearly superior than the other.. what IS debatable though: whether this subject was worth making a whole video on.

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      • #4
        rsrocket1
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2769

        Thank you for the public service announcement. Duh.

        When I see a prop 65 sign that says "this establishment contains hazardous chemicals known to the State of California", I also turn tail and run away as fast as I can.

        More cans!

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        • #5
          odysseus
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2005
          • 10407

          303 views and there is a Jeep advert in there??? I didn't even get past the ad.
          "Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen

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          • #6
            vmwerks
            Norcal Cyclist
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2009
            • 3502

            If you can't shoot a 1911 get out of the game... a super soaker is safe I hear.

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            • #7
              chim-chim7
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 1845

              Sick of the what if's. A super soaker could be over pressured and blow up in some kids face. Hey it could happen. I say just use your own common sense.

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              • #8
                morfeeis
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 7605

                Originally posted by vmwerks
                If you can't shoot a 1911 get out of the game... a super soaker is safe I hear.
                you're kidding right? i cant even tell at this point, if not you did hear him say he's not just talking about 1911's right?

                Anyway i have heard of folks concerned about this before but i think it's not probable but is possible.......
                ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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                You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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                • #9
                  vmwerks
                  Norcal Cyclist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 3502

                  Originally posted by morfeeis
                  you're kidding right? i cant even tell at this point, if not you did hear him say he's not just talking about 1911's right?

                  Anyway i have heard of folks concerned about this before but i think it's not probable but is possible.......
                  I'm not kidding - 1911 has an exposed hammer. If you're hit by any moving part of the gun you're not paying attention. Super Soakers don't have exposed hammers so you're safe...

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                  • #10
                    DannyZRC
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 465

                    For anything to impede the firing of the gun, it has to stop or slow the hammer enough to prevent the firing pin from being struck sufficiently to ignite the primer.

                    if some debris or lint is caught in the rear of the slide, if it is adhere to the sides of that recess then there is no way for it to be stuck hard enough to not just brush off, if it is resting over the firing pin then it will just transmit the blow through itself.

                    you would have to get something in a position not directly over the firing pin, and it would have to be sturdy enough to sufficiently arrest the hammer to prevent ignition.

                    would lint or fine gravel/sand do it? no.

                    maybe if you caked the whole thing with wet greasy mud, anyone want to conduct an experiment?
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                    • #11
                      chaseface
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 467

                      I feel dumber for having watched that video

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                      • #12
                        Pred@tor
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 768

                        I guess we can all get Colt Pocket Ms (hammerless) and be safer? lol
                        "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
                        Thomas Jefferson

                        Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

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                        • #13
                          Mickey D
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 3502

                          Originally posted by Bruce
                          I think this BS myself. In my 40 years of shooting, I've never heard of, seen, or read of anything like what he describes in this video.
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz-7E5RxcuU
                          Perhaps not, but it 'could' happen. That's all he's pointing out.
                          Doesn't mean striker fired or internal hammer pistols are better, they just might not exhibit this potential fault.
                          That's all.
                          ***Honesty is the Foundation of One's Character***

                          *** In comparing the virtues of various calibers, using hollow point ammo: it is absolutely undeniable that, while a 9 mm or .40 S&W may or may not expand, a .45 will never shrink. ***

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                          • #14
                            c.j.
                            Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 116

                            In other breaking news, if the slide is out of battery on a semi-automatic pistol, it won't fire. And if you reassemble it improperly, it might not fire. And if you leave the safety on, it might not fire.

                            I think I'll file this mentally in the 'well duh' category. Of COURSE if something gets in between the hammer and firing pin, it might not fire.

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                            • #15
                              BigDogatPlay
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 7362

                              Could happen, but not inherently likely and I'm not aware of an instance in LEO use of 1911 or similar exposed hammer patterns where it has happened. Daily visual inspection and PM removes 99.8% + / - of the probability, IMO.

                              I think I'll stuff that space on my Combat Commander full of dust bunnies and belly button lint this weekend at the range and see if it still goes bang.
                              -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                              Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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