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  • well206
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 163

    rapid fire, flinching

    Shooting 9mm at 7 yards, at 1 round per second, staying in the black, 4 inch group around bullseye.

    The couple times I try to double tap or rapid fire, rounds go low and to the left. I see the flinch at the moment the first round goes off.

    Any tips on overcoming it? How to slowly build up precise rapid firing? Other thoughts? Thanks!
  • #2
    PyroFox79
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2603

    Are you drawing up when you are trying to double tap? If so you are just pulling the trigger too early.
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    • #3
      jakuda
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 515

      trigger pull....trigger pull...trigger pull...

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      • #4
        IPSICK
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 4259

        Shoot controlled pairs not double taps. Let your sights (primarily front sight) determine your shooting speed. Believe it or not, the top action shooters are watching their sights when shooting at high speeds. They just make quicker judgments on sight picture selectivity.
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        • #5
          9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          At 1 round per second, you should be laying the rounds inside 2", if not on top of each other. You should be able to keep your shots inside 4" while shooting about 4 shots per second

          The way to shoot faster isn't pulling the trigger faster. First you'll need to learn to pull the trigger smoothly straight back, then you need to learn the correct grip to return the gun to POA after each shot, then you learn to see the aligned sights more quickly. The key is to allow the appearance of the aligned sights on target cue your trigger press. Rather than have to align them, confirm alignment and then not jerk the trigger.

          The easiest way is to seek professional instruction. It is hard to correct your own shooting when you don't know what it should feel like when you are doing it correctly
          Last edited by 9mmepiphany; 05-20-2011, 1:25 AM.
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          • #6
            c.j.
            Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 116

            Originally posted by jakuda
            trigger pull....trigger pull...trigger pull...
            +1. Low left probably means you're gripping as you're pulling the trigger and/or trying to force the shot, trying to make it go off NOW! as you feel you're on target (sadly I know this from too much experience with it). A smooth trigger pull and improved grip are probably the keys to straightening it out.

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            • #7
              camron882
              Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 445

              have a friend load some dummy rounds, to see how bad you are flinching when the 2nd rnd of the double tap doesnt kick.

              then have a friend load a mag with dummy rnds and a few live rounds so you dont expect the gun to go off.....

              this is what ive heard from great shooters is a great trick to treat flinching

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              • #8
                vmwerks
                Norcal Cyclist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jun 2009
                • 3502

                Originally posted by camron882
                have a friend load some dummy rounds, to see how bad you are flinching when the 2nd rnd of the double tap doesnt kick.

                then have a friend load a mag with dummy rnds and a few live rounds so you dont expect the gun to go off.....

                this is what ive heard from great shooters is a great trick to treat flinching
                We used to do it with revolvers... leave an empty chamber

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                • #9
                  Bug Splat
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 6561

                  IPSICK is on the money. Your shot speed should be timed with how long it takes your muzzle to come back down. Don't try to force your muzzle on target by overpowering the recoil, let it come back down naturally and when it does.... squeeze. As you practice, your timing gets batter and in turn, your speed.

                  Also pay attention to your trigger rest point. Learn to only reset as far as your trigger requires. This can be tough but is very important. You can do this at home by pulling the trigger, keep it pulled and then rack the slide. Ease off the trigger until it reset and pull the trigger quickly dry firing it. Do this as much as you can. Soon the muscle memory of it will burn in and will improve your speed. This helped me a lot with accurate rapid fire shooting.
                  Last edited by Bug Splat; 05-20-2011, 8:45 PM.

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