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  • GundamCL
    Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 281

    Need Advice on Upgrading 1911 Parts!

    I currently DROS'ed up a Springfield Loaded and now am wondering what parts to upgrade. Since the 1911 I picked up is used, I plan on changing the recoil spring to a Wilson Combat 18lb recoil spring. I also want to change out the Mainspring Housing as well. Does anyone know if I need to change the Mainspring as well? The 1911 also has the ILS Mainspring from Springfield.

    Any advice on whether my upgrades are a good idea or if I need additional parts to make my upgrades work would be greatly appreciated!!
  • #2
    DArBad
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 3002

    The stock hammer spring with the ILS is 28 lbs, which is quite heavy. Change it to the regular factory weight of 23 lbs. Might be a good idea too to replace and tune the sear spring, and change all the internals of the new MSH.

    These are quite easy to do and has the potential of giving you a much improved trigger pull.

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    • #3
      zdragon
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 414

      shoot it for 500rds of factory ball ammo first before swapping anything out if i were you.

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      • #4
        GundamCL
        Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 281

        Originally posted by zdragon
        shoot it for 500rds of factory ball ammo first before swapping anything out if i were you.
        The 1911 has about 1500 rounds through it already.

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        • #5
          TMC
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2348

          18lb recoil spring is too heavy no matter what load you are going to shoot. 16lb is typical for a 45 a 14lb would be better for recoil and function.

          The only difference between an ILS housing and a normal one is the little deal to lock the plunger and spring. Any after market housing it will fit fine and the factory spring, plunger and retaining pin plunger will work in the new housing. You will need to get the small pin that retains the mainspring in the housing.

          +1 on the lighter mainspring.
          where are my pistol mags?

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          • #6
            Q619
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1223

            I'd go with a GI recoil guide/plug with a 16lb recoil spring, get either an Ed Brown or Wilson MSH (you'll want a lighter spring than what you've got as suggested), leave the sear spring alone (unless you know how to adjust it for the trigger reset/sear disengagement as well as adjusting it for tension on your grip safety), put a steel firing pin in there from Ed Brown (I believe EGW and John Harrison also make FP's for Springfield 1911's). Other than those minor upgrades, I'd get some good magazines (Wilson, Chip McCormick, Tripp).

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            • #7
              CalTeacher
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 828

              Test the pistol out first before you go swapping out parts for the sake of swapping them out. You could make a perfectly reliable pistol into an unreliable parts project really fast if you jump the gun with this stuff.

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              • #8
                GundamCL
                Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 281

                Originally posted by CalTeacher
                Test the pistol out first before you go swapping out parts for the sake of swapping them out. You could make a perfectly reliable pistol into an unreliable parts project really fast if you jump the gun with this stuff.
                Understood. Probably will buy this stuff later when I get to test out the handgun. I will start out with some VZ grips.

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                • #9
                  Don the savage
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2094

                  I changed the msh on my loaded to a smith and alexander. I was unaware the spring was that much heavier than a normal msh spring. I will be chugging that spring I guess since my trigger pull is heavier than my norinco I have done work on.
                  I support peace through superior firepower.
                  "Para ser libre, un hombre debe tener tres cosas, la tierra, una educacion y un fusil. Siempre un fusil ! (To be free, a man must have three things; land, an education and a rifle. Always a rifle)" -Emiliano Zapata.

                  Originally posted by rsrocket1
                  Of course they are in free territory where they can pick up ammunition at the local 5 and dime without going through a criminal background check. All we get is legalized pot.

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                  • #10
                    CalTeacher
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 828

                    If it were me...and I realize it ain't...but if it were, i'd take the money for upgrades and use it to buy good mags and ammo.

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                    • #11
                      IPSICK
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 4259

                      You guys are silly. As long as he retains factory spring weights for the recoil spring (or down to a 14lb as TMC recommends) and the mainspring (non-ILS factory spring weight), reliability should be fine.

                      *Factory weights for 1911's can be found on Wolff Springs website. Again make sure you get the factory weight spring for a regular mainspring housing if you replace the ILS msh.
                      "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                      "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                      • #12
                        GundamCL
                        Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 281

                        Originally posted by CalTeacher
                        If it were me...and I realize it ain't...but if it were, i'd take the money for upgrades and use it to buy good mags and ammo.
                        I agree. I plan on getting some Winchester Ranger T-Series or Bonded 230 gr. for Self Defense. For magazines, I am still not too sure on what to get. I am thinking either Mec-Gar 8 rounders or maybe Tripp Research 8rders.

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                        • #13
                          Paradiddle
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 1743

                          Originally posted by GundamCL
                          I currently DROS'ed up a Springfield Loaded and now am wondering what parts to upgrade. Since the 1911 I picked up is used, I plan on changing the recoil spring to a Wilson Combat 18lb recoil spring. I also want to change out the Mainspring Housing as well. Does anyone know if I need to change the Mainspring as well? The 1911 also has the ILS Mainspring from Springfield.

                          Any advice on whether my upgrades are a good idea or if I need additional parts to make my upgrades work would be greatly appreciated!!
                          I'm curious why you don't shoot the heck out of it first - and then decide what you really need/want before you waste any money. PS - as far as mags go I really like Wilson.
                          Last edited by Paradiddle; 05-16-2011, 4:27 PM.

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                          • #14
                            IPSICK
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4259

                            Originally posted by CalTeacher
                            If it were me...and I realize it ain't...but if it were, i'd take the money for upgrades and use it to buy good mags and ammo.
                            These are relatively cheap upgrades.
                            "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                            "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                            • #15
                              IPSICK
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4259

                              Originally posted by GundamCL
                              I agree. I plan on getting some Winchester Ranger T-Series or Bonded 230 gr. for Self Defense. For magazines, I am still not too sure on what to get. I am thinking either Mec-Gar 8 rounders or maybe Tripp Research 8rders.
                              I run Chip McCormick Power Mags in my TRP w/ no issues. They are the 10-rounders though, but I don't see why the 8-rounders would not be just as reliable. I've used the Tripps and for me they are only OK.
                              "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                              "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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