Handgun Roster, illegal?

[GLOCK PERFECTION]

It's one thing to say that we can't have more than 10 rounds in a mag but to also say that a mag disconnect safety is REQUIRED, not optional, shouldn't that be illegal? Of course everyone here is going to agree but why is this specific regulation not being thrown out the window like the mail order ammo ban was? For California to say some guns without mag disconnect safety is legal to purchase while others is not is absolutely mind boggling. So say a new shooter acquires a new hand gun with a mag disconnect safety and learns that the shooter cannot fire his/her handgun w/o the mag in place but goes to the range, rents a gen 3 glock, releases the mag and squeezes...BANG! I say pushing and promoting the basic gun safety rules is much much more effective in keeping new and old shooters safe.
Anyways, what I'm here to ask about is, does anyone here know if the requirements on the handgun roster will change? Specifically, will the mag disconnect safety requirement be removed? Some newest and safest guns available can now no longer be acquired in Cali, without jumping, cartwheeling and tictactoeing to get a single shot conversion and other BS crap like that.

[rero360]

Yes it is illegal

[Blackhawk556]

Read the wiki page on top and you'll see there a lawsuit that take 10 years to complete. Once it's finished though, the roster will be dead

[ke6guj]

yes, based on the 2nd amendment, the roster would appear to be illegal. We currently have a court case in progress in an attempt to get the roster ruled to be unconstitutional, http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Pena_v._Cid , but at the current time, it is the law of the land in CA.

[GLOCK PERFECTION]

Read the wiki page on top and you'll see there a lawsuit that take 10 years to complete. Once it's finished though, the roster will be dead

Wow, is that right? About 10 years? I may sound sarcastic when I say this but trust me I'm serious...THAT IS REALLY GOOD NEWS. I didn't read the wiki article yet, in fact, I'm not able to find the exact link but any news that this retarded roster list going down and I can sleep much better now lol. I mean, I would love to have the damn thing down tomorrow but a victory is a victory, no matter how long it takes. Also, if it isn't too much trouble, would you be able to provide the link in your reply to spread the happiness to all the shooters in Cali who doesn't know about this...Hmmm, I kinda want the new Ruger 1911. Oh, we can't forget the Glock Gen 4's. HK45, S&W M&P R8 revolver, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

[GLOCK PERFECTION]

yes, based on the 2nd amendment, the roster would appear to be illegal. We currently have a court case in progress in an attempt to get the roster ruled to be unconstitutional, http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Pena_v._Cid , but at the current time, it is the law of the land in CA.

Thank you, you beat me to it. Btw, I just joined Calguns, I dont know why it took me so long but I'm glad I did, you guys are awesome. Maybe there's hope for this State after all.

[cali_armz]

heres some more info on the case

http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/pena/Pena-v-Cid-Amended-Complaint.pdf

[Blackhawk556]

Just to clarify something, I was playing when I said ten years. The case is on hold until another case that has been going on for 10 years gets resolved. Seriously though, I think it will take about 1.5-3 years. This is my unedumacated opinion

[Munk]

The problem is there's no requirement for expedience, so these cases have no set timeframe. It would be nice if there could be a "no dragging your *** out of spite" requirement for rulings in these cases.

*grumblegrumble-Stupid-Nordyke-grumble*

[WWDHD?]

10 years? But you guys all said 2 WEEKS.

[Baconator]

10 years? But you guys all said 2 WEEKS.

Yes, two weeks; two weeks then two more weeks, then...

[wang949]

I'm just glad to hear it WILL get repealed.

[Noah3683]

Meh...... by the time it gets repealed I will have everything I want through single shot exemption anyway. Sucks to pay more, but I'm impatient

[zdragon]

So say a new shooter acquires a new hand gun with a mag disconnect safety and learns that the shooter cannot fire his/her handgun w/o the mag in place but goes to the range, rents a gen 3 glock, releases the mag and squeezes...BANG!

unnecessary tragedy waiting to happen.....very sad.

[Rudolf the Red]

Don't get me started on the roster.

I bought a handgun to sell at a gun show recently and while it was being shipped, it fell off the roster. I know, I know, my fault for not checking but hear me out. What CA is saying is that this gun was safe yesterday, but not today. It is a JOKE. How long can this BS stand?

The gun is a Taurus PT111. Nice. I'm trying to sell it to an LE officer at a 10% loss. I can't make any money on it in any other state either. It's a 10 rounder and other states get 12 in this model. F U California!!