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  • smittty
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2008
    • 6254

    DOJ confirmed, max PPT fee is $35

    I recently did two PPT's and wanted to do another yesterday but all the FFL's I called in the Thousand Oaks area said the charge $60.

    This p'd me off enough to call DOJ to find out if they enforce the max $35 PPT fee and they said the do. I was told it's $25 dros + $10 dealer fee and they are not allowed to charge any handling fee, etc. It's $35 max, period!

    The FFL that tried to charge me $60 on Sunday is going to get a visit by the DOJ.

    This topic should be a sticky.

    Thanks,
    Smitty
    Last edited by smittty; 04-20-2011, 3:45 PM.
  • #2
    Target19
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 613

    Hell yeah!!!
    Way to go Smitty!!!
    $35 for one gun is right!!!

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    • #3
      mikeinla
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Aug 2007
      • 1916

      What is the point of complaining WITHOUT giving the name of the FFL???

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      • #4
        a1c
        CGSSA Coordinator
        • Oct 2009
        • 9098

        Originally posted by mikeinla
        What is the point of complaining WITHOUT giving the name of the FFL???
        The FFL is going to be straightened by the DOJ. Maybe they charged $60 out of ignorance. They're going to clean up their act, and we might as well give them a chance.
        WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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        • #5
          mikeinla
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Aug 2007
          • 1916

          Originally posted by a1c
          The FFL is going to be straightened by the DOJ. Maybe they charged $60 out of ignorance. They're going to clean up their act, and we might as well give them a chance.
          "Maybe they charged $60 out of ignorance"


          Did the FFL open up yesterday???? If the FFL cannot understand SIMPLE rules do you really think they should be selling firearms??

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          • #6
            mlevans66
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2009
            • 9516

            Thank for the info!
            The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
            The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
            I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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            • #7
              GILMORE619
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 560

              Does the DOJ strictly enforce this ?
              Originally posted by elSquid
              Like Yoda said: "Buy. Or buy not. There is no whine."



              -- Michael
              Originally posted by Pardini
              Obviously, they just threw that shat out there for Calgunners to proof read and expose the loopholes. Now that we have done our part, they will go back and tighten it up and make our fruking airtight.

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              • #8
                Wonderwhippet
                Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 367

                I no longer do transfers at Duncan's Gun Works in San Marcos, as they charged me $50 and claimed it was strictly legal.

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                • #9
                  kmca
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2371

                  If you could get a letter from the DOJ and post it here, others could print it out and take it with them for their next PPT

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                  • #10
                    smittty
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6254

                    It was Shooters Paradise/B&G Guns in Oxnard. They told us it was $25 and then added $35 dealer fee for a total of $60. They have been in business a long time and know the rules. We ended up driving to Battlefield Sports in Ventura who charge $35.

                    DOJ assures me they do enforce this.

                    The thing the FFL's need to understand is that the PPT fee is regulated to encourage us to do business thru them. Charging more only p'd me off.

                    The shooter's Paradise experience was on Sunday. Yesterday I was trying to arrange to buy a gun thru PPT and needed to find an FFL in Thousand Oaks area but all the FFL's I called told me they charge $60 for PPT. The seller didn't want to drive the extra distance to another FFL that charges $35 so I decided to not buy the gun. I was frustrated enough to call DOJ.

                    Good FFL's that I know of that charge $35 are:

                    Battlefield Sports - Ventura
                    Uncle Paul's - Ventura
                    Far West Gun - Santa Barbara

                    We should make a list!

                    Smitty

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                    • #11
                      smittty
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6254

                      Originally posted by kmca
                      If you could get a letter from the DOJ and post it here, others could print it out and take it with them for their next PPT
                      That's a very good idea! I will call them again and ask about that and get confirmation about the fees for more than one gun beacause I know that question will come up.

                      Smitty
                      Last edited by smittty; 04-20-2011, 4:36 PM.

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                      • #12
                        bug_eyedmonster
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3639

                        Hey Guys,

                        Just a heads up... when I was visiting a friend in Southern California, we stopped by a local gun shop to pick up some ammo before a shoot. I was talking to them about standard business, and I saw a sign posted regarding PPTs and storage fees. Apparently, they had the approval from the DOJ to charge the standard $35 for the transfer, but were able to tack on a storage fee for every day after the 240th hour. I don't think it was a substantial amount, somewhere around the $7 range, but something I've never seen before. When I asked about it, he simply said "our store, our rules." I just laughed and went on my way. I can't remember the store name, but it was very small but very busy near the 410 near the LAX airport.

                        Jerry
                        The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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                        • #13
                          Skunk2Racer
                          Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 191

                          Don't you mean 405 fwy? Was it north or south of LAX?
                          sigpic "Are You Listening to Me? Put that Hand on me again, And you won't get it back." ELI (Denzel Washington) "The Book Of Eli"

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                          • #14
                            bug_eyedmonster
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3639

                            Originally posted by Skunk2Racer
                            Don't you mean 405 fwy? Was it north or south of LAX?
                            Yeah, sorry, I meant 405. I was thinking in my head if it was the 110 or the 405. I remembered the conversation we had about traffic on the 405 on the way there. I don't remember if we were going north or southbound to be honest, it was about three years ago.

                            Jerry
                            The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              I am in Simi Valley and charge the legal fee of $35 for a PPT. I would assume Fort Courage Armory would also charge the correct amount.
                              Kemasa.
                              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                              Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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