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  • Baconator
    Bacon makes it better
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2009
    • 9547

    Another AR handgun question

    If I am buying a brand new oll, do I have the option of requesting that it be DROSd as a handgun, or must the manufacturer designate it as one? And if I do, all handgun rules apply? 10 round mag, no bullet button, no forward grip?
  • #2
    leelaw
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10445

    You can only get a fully assembled ar pistol in a single shot configuration, unless you have an exemption to the roster. You can't just buy a stripped receiver.

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    • #3
      Baconator
      Bacon makes it better
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2009
      • 9547

      Originally posted by leelaw
      You can only get a fully assembled ar pistol in a single shot configuration, unless you have an exemption to the roster. You can't just buy a stripped receiver.
      Thanks Lee.

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      • #4
        G1500
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 1825

        You still need a BB.

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        • #5
          Baconator
          Bacon makes it better
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2009
          • 9547

          Originally posted by G1500
          You still need a BB.
          even though it's a pistol? I hate this place.

          A second question about it. Let's say I buy a OLL from an online dealer and have it sent to a FFL who does single shot conversions. Can I have that dealer build it into a single shot and then transfer it to me as a pistol?

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by pappabacon
            even though it's a pistol? I hate this place.

            A second question about it. Let's say I buy a OLL from an online dealer and have it sent to a FFL who does single shot conversions. Can I have that dealer build it into a single shot and then transfer it to me as a pistol?
            Normal FFL dealers (Type 01-FFL) can not legally manufacture a stripped reciever into a handgun.

            FFL dealers licensed as manufacturers (Type 07-FFL) can legally manufacture a stripped reciever into a handgun.

            So, you will need to utilize the services of a Type 07-FFL for what you want.
            sigpic

            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              G1500
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 1825

              Originally posted by pappabacon
              even though it's a pistol? I hate this place.

              A second question about it. Let's say I buy a OLL from an online dealer and have it sent to a FFL who does single shot conversions. Can I have that dealer build it into a single shot and then transfer it to me as a pistol?
              Magazine is outside of the pistol grip, you will need one regardless of centerfire or rimfire.

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              • #8
                FeuerFrei
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2008
                • 7455

                You can always build your own AR pistol from an 80% lower.
                No waiting. No paperwork. Just some drilling, finish work and a drill press.
                Still needs BB and only ten round mags.
                Building these things can be more addicting than rifles.

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                • #9
                  FNH5-7
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 9407

                  Originally posted by pappabacon
                  even though it's a pistol? I hate this place.

                  A second question about it. Let's say I buy a OLL from an online dealer and have it sent to a FFL who does single shot conversions. Can I have that dealer build it into a single shot and then transfer it to me as a pistol?
                  They have to add THEIR FFL INFO to the lower ALONG with the original manufacturer info that's already on the lower.

                  The best advice I can give you is buy a complete AR pistol, then customize it to how you originally wanted it. Sell the upper buy what you wanted etc.......
                  Originally posted by FalconLair
                  I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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                  • #10
                    Baconator
                    Bacon makes it better
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 9547

                    Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                    You can always build your own AR pistol from an 80% lower.
                    No waiting. No paperwork. Just some drilling, finish work and a drill press.
                    Still needs BB and only ten round mags.
                    Building these things can be more addicting than rifles.
                    I have been looking at this. CMMG was selling 80%'s for like $35. Is there a wiki on what you need to finish the job and how to do it?

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                    • #11
                      FNH5-7
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 9407

                      Originally posted by pappabacon
                      I have been looking at this. CMMG was selling 80%'s for like $35. Is there a wiki on what you need to finish the job and how to do it?
                      If you have a CNC machine buy a jig and you're G2G.
                      Originally posted by FalconLair
                      I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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                      • #12
                        Baconator
                        Bacon makes it better
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 9547

                        Originally posted by Colt-45
                        If you have a CNC machine buy a jig and you're G2G.
                        I has none

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                        • #13
                          rareair
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1898

                          Originally posted by pappabacon
                          Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                          You can always build your own AR pistol from an 80% lower.
                          No waiting. No paperwork. Just some drilling, finish work and a drill press.
                          Still needs BB and only ten round mags.
                          Building these things can be more addicting than rifles.
                          I have been looking at this. CMMG was selling 80%'s for like $35. Is there a wiki on what you need to finish the job and how to do it?
                          $35 for an 80% that's an incredible deal. $35 usually gets you a raw forging. Most 80% lowers run in the $75-$100 range. Here's a good web site entailing what needs to be done to make it a 100% receiver as well as part(s) needed to do the job-
                          Learn about 80% Lowers, the legalities and what it takes to complete one.
                          MagPul MPLA
                          POF-USA P415-18-11T-223
                          TROY M7A1
                          & a bunch of SIG pistols and rifles

                          **WTB P227 TacOps**

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                          • #14
                            rareair
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 1898

                            Regardless of which route you take to obtain an AR pistol (80% lower, buy complete pistol, PPT a pistol), in the end it costs roughly $900-$1200+ depending on the quality of components used
                            MagPul MPLA
                            POF-USA P415-18-11T-223
                            TROY M7A1
                            & a bunch of SIG pistols and rifles

                            **WTB P227 TacOps**

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                            • #15
                              Baconator
                              Bacon makes it better
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 9547

                              Originally posted by rareair
                              $35 for an 80% that's an incredible deal. $35 usually gets you a raw forging. Most 80% lowers run in the $75-$100 range. Here's a good web site entailing what needs to be done to make it a 100% receiver as well as part(s) needed to do the job-
                              http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-lower-receiver/
                              Maybe it was raw and I don't know what I'm talking about.it happens often if you ask my wife

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