Questions About the Mustang Range CCW Class

[Cpl. Haas]

So here's the deal...

My boss has been bugging me for the past week about obtaining a Nevada CCW for added security on an upcoming business trip to Las Vegas in January of next year. The company I work for is planning to test a new weapon system in the desert and they want me to be able to carry concealed while driving the device through Nevada (I'll have to settle for a Taser while driving it from So Cal to NV ).

Since my POST training was much more than 12 months ago and I stopped being a LEO when I went back to school, it appears I have to take an approved class, right? I've been looking at the Mustang Range outside Reno for their CCW training classes, but I had a few questions that I'm hoping some of you guys can answer for me.

1.) Aside from a firearm and thirty rounds of ammo, what other equipment is required/expected by them for the live-fire portion? Will I need a belt holster and several mags, or is just my Sig and one standard capacity .40 mag sufficient?

2.) At the moment, the only non-C&R handgun I own is a .40 Sig P226R (Not the best for CCW, I know, but it's reliable and I'm proficient with it). If I qualify with the Sig and later purchase something more compact, is it easy to have additional firearms added to the permit? I figure I'll have to re-qualify with the new gun, but what's the process/turn-around time to have the Sheriff's Department add it to the permit?

3.) For those of you who have obtained your permits from the Washoe County Sheriff's Department, what's a realistic turn-around time that I can expect between filing the paperwork and receiving my permit? As I said, I need it by January 1st, so I'd like to figure out if this is something I should do soon with my Sig, or in a few months when I have enough disposable income to buy something smaller.

Any input you can give me is greatly appreciated...

[Quiet]

My experience in dealing with a non-resident NV CCW permit is from the Clark County perspective.

1) Just bring firearm(s), 2 magazines/speed loaders & ammo. Shooting is done starting at the low ready.
2) Cost of qualifying with new handgun and $25 to ammend permit. Can't carry new gun until new CCW permit listing the new gun arrives.
3) Legally they can take up to 120 days. Clark County did mine in around 100 days, renewal took around 30 days.


NV CCW law was ammend and the new changes go into effect on 10-01-2007.

So, you may want to apply for a non-resident CCW permit after 10-01-07 to be under the benefits of the new CCW law. Such as, non-resident permit being good for 5 years instead of 3 and when you qualify with one revolver, you are good to carry any revolver.

EDIT:
FYI.
It is legal to open carry in NV. So, you can go that route, if you don't get your permit in time.

[Liberty1]

[QUOTE=Cpl. Haas;712615](I'll have to settle for a Taser while driving it from So Cal to NV ).

If you and or your boss is concerned for your safety while transporting product in CA and a CA License To Carry is impossible, I say open carry in the vehicle with separate loaded mags. That will at least beat the Taser if faced with a deadly threat. Or if OC is uncomfortable, have it unloaded in a quick access handgun safe on the seat next to you with separate loaded mags.

[Cpl. Haas]

My experience in dealing with a non-resident NV CCW permit is from the Clark County perspective.

1) Just bring firearm(s), 2 magazines/speed loaders & ammo. Shooting is done starting at the low ready.
2) Cost of qualifying with new handgun and $25 to amend permit. Can't carry new gun until new CCW permit listing the new gun arrives.
3) Legally they can take up to 120 days. Clark County did mine in around 100 days, renewal took around 30 days.


NV CCW law was amended and the new changes go into effect on 10-01-2007.

So, you may want to apply for a non-resident CCW permit after 10-01-07 to be under the benefits of the new CCW law. Such as, non-resident permit being good for 5 years instead of 3 and when you qualify with one revolver, you are good to carry any revolver.

EDIT:
FYI.
It is legal to open carry in NV. So, you can go that route, if you don't get your permit in time.

Thanks for the info!

Since, as you say, they can legally take up to 120 days to get the permit out, I guess I should go ahead and get it sooner, rather than later. Since I'm not a big fan of wheel-guns, and my company is footing the bill for the permit, I don't really care how long it's valid for... I'll probably only use it once or twice anyway.

If you and or your boss is concerned for your safety while transporting product in CA and a CA License To Carry is impossible, I say open carry in the vehicle with separate loaded mags. That will at least beat the Taser if faced with a deadly threat. Or if OC is uncomfortable, have it unloaded in a quick access handgun safe on the seat next to you with separate loaded mags.

To be honest, I'm really not that concerned about my safety. We're transporting a gauss weapon system out to a test site in central Nevada, not a truck full of cash through North Richmond. The simple fact of the matter is that the guy who designed the system is a MIT alumni who's apparently had more than one project idea stolen by fellow grad students/corporations/shadowy government figures and is acting like ninjas are gonna descend on our vehicle as soon as we hit Barstow.

I don't think the poor guy realizes that the biggest danger on this trip is gonna be me the second I get the company's new HMMWV off of the paved road...

[ccwguy]

I will be teaching with Kelly there this weekend. 30 rounds, no holster. Safety glasses, ear protection. Class starts 8 am at her home. PM me for other info. Utah sign off is $20. Fla is free. You can borrow any pistol you like from me to qualify, I got lots! Turn around is 10 days after doing the papers. Very quick. Utah is way delayed (4-6months)

[Cpl. Haas]

I will be teaching with Kelly there this weekend. 30 rounds, no holster. Safety glasses, ear protection. Class starts 8 am at her home. PM me for other info. Utah sign off is $20. Fla is free. You can borrow any pistol you like from me to qualify, I got lots! Turn around is 10 days after doing the papers. Very quick. Utah is way delayed (4-6months)

Dang it! I want to, but I've got prior obligations.

Anytime else in the near future that you're gonna be teaching it?

[ccwguy]

Dang it! I want to, but I've got prior obligations.

Anytime else in the near future that you're gonna be teaching it?

I am there now and then. Adding some endorsements to my teaching credentials. I highly recommend Kelly. She is great, she is very active in the shooting community politics in government there. I can send you her cell # if you like. They have a killer range...class 3 autos! Lots of fun.

[Cpl. Haas]

I highly recommend Kelly. I can send you her cell # if you like.

I'd like that. Could you PM me with the #?

Thanks!

[Raspy]

<><> The way I understand the law on
concealed carry in Nev. is,,, it is legal to
have a concealed handgun in your vehicle,,,
loaded or unloaded...

I would take that to mean on your person
as long as you are in your vehicle...

This is my interpetation of the law,,, you may
not agree... I can't remember where I read
this,,, it may have been on packing.org,,, or
the Nev. DOJ site...

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<><> Raspy <><>

[ccwguy]

On your person IN a motor vehicle IS concealed. In a portable, unsecured duffle, case, bag or otherwise is also concealed. Unless the container is fastened to vehicle. On seat, on console, in glovebox is ok. It may also be chambered. If it's a rifle, it CANNOT be chambered, yet loaded is ok. Unless it's Clark County, then it's a local, more stringent restriction. Possession/ transport of ANY firearm, loaded or not, in any storage format is highly illegal on sovereign land (like Pyramid Lake etc...) No federal exempture to protect you.

[Raspy]

<><> Well,,, I should'a known... Too good
to be true...

Thanks for the clarification...

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<><> Raspy <><>

[WokMaster1]

Correct me if I am wrong. Your company makes electronic weapons systems. As far as I know, you need both local & federal permits for making such things, right? In the interest of National Security, the federal gov't does not want this system to fall into the wrong hands, right? Can't the federal gov't provide your company with temporary permits for the escorts to be armed while transporting the device?

Obviously, the escorts need to pass security clearance & firearms tests.

Hmm, on second thoughts, it's the gov't.

So here's the deal...

My boss has been bugging me for the past week about obtaining a Nevada CCW for added security on an upcoming business trip to Las Vegas in January of next year. The company I work for is planning to test a new weapon system in the desert and they want me to be able to carry concealed while driving the device through Nevada (I'll have to settle for a Taser while driving it from So Cal to NV ).

Since my POST training was much more than 12 months ago and I stopped being a LEO when I went back to school, it appears I have to take an approved class, right? I've been looking at the Mustang Range outside Reno for their CCW training classes, but I had a few questions that I'm hoping some of you guys can answer for me.

1.) Aside from a firearm and thirty rounds of ammo, what other equipment is required/expected by them for the live-fire portion? Will I need a belt holster and several mags, or is just my Sig and one standard capacity .40 mag sufficient?

2.) At the moment, the only non-C&R handgun I own is a .40 Sig P226R (Not the best for CCW, I know, but it's reliable and I'm proficient with it). If I qualify with the Sig and later purchase something more compact, is it easy to have additional firearms added to the permit? I figure I'll have to re-qualify with the new gun, but what's the process/turn-around time to have the Sheriff's Department add it to the permit?

3.) For those of you who have obtained your permits from the Washoe County Sheriff's Department, what's a realistic turn-around time that I can expect between filing the paperwork and receiving my permit? As I said, I need it by January 1st, so I'd like to figure out if this is something I should do soon with my Sig, or in a few months when I have enough disposable income to buy something smaller.

Any input you can give me is greatly appreciated...

[-hanko]

In the interest of National Security, the federal gov't does not want this system to fall into the wrong hands, right? Can't the federal gov't provide your company with temporary permits for the escorts to be armed while transporting the device?

If the system were that sensitive, govt would have already provided just what OP needs. amhik

-hanko

[WokMaster1]

If the system were that sensitive, govt would have already provided just what OP needs. amhik

-hanko

what? use SF board of supes as target? that'll be my wet dream!

[Cpl. Haas]

Correct me if I am wrong. Your company makes electronic weapons systems. As far as I know, you need both local & federal permits for making such things, right?

Nope... my company makes robots, microchips, electronic devices, etc... this is their first "weapon".

If my company was developing some kind of super death laser under a DOD contract, then the story would probably be different. In reality, however, the system they're in the process of developing is independent of any federal contract and rather tame in comparison. They're building a scaled-down prototype mainly to see if they can, and to patent the technology if it's successful. The testing is going to be done in the desert because it could cause a lot of damage if something goes wrong and we don't want to test it in a populated area.

As far as permitting goes, local and state laws have yet to catch up to the technology, so it's not considered a "firearm" and subject to permitting requirements. There will probably be some HazMat permitting through the DOT when it comes time to transport the device, but we're not anticipating any issues with that; just paperwork. We've hired an attorney as well to double-check everything and try to get whatever he can in writing from DOJ/BATFE.